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ATL: EIGHT - Remnants - Discussion

#1 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:59 pm

Think this is the remnants of Fiona. Looks very well organized. Almost like the pre Joaquin vortex
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#2 Postby benh316 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:26 pm

The tropics in general look highly volatile and now saturated at the moment. Plenty of opportunity for convection and even random "spawning" of systems throughout. This should be a great year for science!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#3 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:26 pm

benh316 wrote:The tropics in general look highly volatile and now saturated at the moment. Plenty of opportunity for convection and even random "spawning" of systems throughout. This should be a great year for science!


Could it interfere with the tracks of Gaston or 99L? Surprised they haven't tagged the Gulf low 92L as well...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#4 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:26 pm

Ex-Fiona has been resurrected indeed. Talk about a system that had been wrote off by me and some others for the past few days, only to literally come back from the dead seemingly. Now designated Invest 91L looks quite good early this evening. Good structure to it already. I will be interested to see the how the models have how strong they have this getting potentially in the short term.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#5 Postby AJC3 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:31 pm

northjaxpro wrote:Ex-Fiona has been resurrected indeed. Talk about a system that has been wrote off by me and some others, only to literally come back from the dead seemingly. Now Invest 91L looks quite good early this evening. Good structure to it already. I will be interested to see the how the models have how strong they have this getting potentially in the short term.


It's been interesting to watch. The remnants of Fiona underwent deformation as it turned NW and combined with a western Atlantic low level trough over the course of the last few days. It looks like a favorable broad low level cyclonic shear pattern has now emerged over the western Atlantic. These areas/zones are notorious for developing multiple (initially weak) vortex spinups locally (i.e. this area, 32N75W and 34N71W). I remarked to a friend it looked like a weaker crap version of what the WPAC basin looked like several days ago. lol
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#6 Postby benh316 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:32 pm

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benh316 wrote:The tropics in general look highly volatile and now saturated at the moment. Plenty of opportunity for convection and even random "spawning" of systems throughout. This should be a great year for science!


Could it interfere with the tracks of Gaston or 99L? Surprised they haven't tagged the Gulf low 92L as well...


Great question... Personally I think the meteorologists have turned to drugs and alcohol by now and these tags are the work of office staff trying to keep everyone's spirits up. I did see a couple guys clinging to their PC models earlier... But I also think I saw a flask in their bottom drawer lol

Jokes aside, get ready for some crazy tropical action
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#7 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:33 pm

I thought this area looked suspicious earlier. Haven't seen any models on this yet but I assume OTS?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#8 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:34 pm

Well, looking at WV imagery, I see an ULL just to the northwest of the system bringing some southwest shear over 91L at the current time. Looks like the ULL is moving slowly southwest.
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#9 Postby somethingfunny » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:36 pm

Would this be a new name if it develops?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#10 Postby benh316 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:38 pm

somethingfunny wrote:Would this be a new name if it develops?


Yeah it would be Hermine :) lol

Looks like it's a three way race for H
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#11 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:39 pm

somethingfunny wrote:Would this be a new name if it develops?


Yes. This has a new designation, 91L. So NHC would give it a different name should it get classified a TS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#12 Postby LarryWx » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:41 pm

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northjaxpro wrote:Ex-Fiona has been resurrected indeed. Talk about a system that has been wrote off by me and some others, only to literally come back from the dead seemingly. Now Invest 91L looks quite good early this evening. Good structure to it already. I will be interested to see the how the models have how strong they have this getting potentially in the short term.


It's been interesting to watch. The remnants of Fiona underwent deformation as it turned NW and combined with a western Atlantic low level trough over the course of the last few days. It looks like a favorable broad low level cyclonic shear pattern has now emerged over the western Atlantic. These areas/zones are notorious for developing multiple (initially weak) vortex spinups locally (i.e. this area, 32N75W and 34N71W). I remarked to a friend it looked like a weaker crap version of what the WPAC basin looked like several days ago. lol


Is this area the remnants of Fiona or is the spinning area near 30-31N, 75W the remnants? Both are headed for the SE coast underneath the big upper level high over the E US.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#13 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:46 pm

Fiona's ghost does not want to go away just yet, but it is still suffering from some shear but not as bad as some models had it over her.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#14 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:51 pm

LarryWx wrote:
AJC3 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:Ex-Fiona has been resurrected indeed. Talk about a system that has been wrote off by me and some others, only to literally come back from the dead seemingly. Now Invest 91L looks quite good early this evening. Good structure to it already. I will be interested to see the how the models have how strong they have this getting potentially in the short term.


It's been interesting to watch. The remnants of Fiona underwent deformation as it turned NW and combined with a western Atlantic low level trough over the course of the last few days. It looks like a favorable broad low level cyclonic shear pattern has now emerged over the western Atlantic. These areas/zones are notorious for developing multiple (initially weak) vortex spinups locally (i.e. this area, 32N75W and 34N71W). I remarked to a friend it looked like a weaker crap version of what the WPAC basin looked like several days ago. lol


Is this area the remnants of Fiona or is the spinning area near 30-31N, 75W the remnants? Both are headed for the SE coast underneath the big upper level high over the E US.


Invest 91L is the area just south of Bermuda. It is from an east-west trough which dropped south down along the Mid -Atlantic area to north of the Bahamas earlier this week. Fiona's remnants merged with that trough early this past week. Ex-Fiona was officially classified as Post-Tropical by NHC when Fiona's remnants got merged with the associated trough . So, because of this, NHC now looks as this as a separate entity. Very interesting indeed.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#15 Postby AJC3 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:04 pm

LarryWx wrote:
AJC3 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:Ex-Fiona has been resurrected indeed. Talk about a system that has been wrote off by me and some others, only to literally come back from the dead seemingly. Now Invest 91L looks quite good early this evening. Good structure to it already. I will be interested to see the how the models have how strong they have this getting potentially in the short term.


It's been interesting to watch. The remnants of Fiona underwent deformation as it turned NW and combined with a western Atlantic low level trough over the course of the last few days. It looks like a favorable broad low level cyclonic shear pattern has now emerged over the western Atlantic. These areas/zones are notorious for developing multiple (initially weak) vortex spinups locally (i.e. this area, 32N75W and 34N71W). I remarked to a friend it looked like a weaker crap version of what the WPAC basin looked like several days ago. lol


Is this area the remnants of Fiona or is the spinning area near 30-31N, 75W the remnants? Both are headed for the SE coast underneath the big upper level high over the E US.


It's exactly as described above by northjaxpro. Hopefully I was clear that there were three separate areas: 91L, (which includes Fiona's remnants), the area near 32N75W and the area near 34N71W, the latter two being extremely weak, deforming vortices/eddies.
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#16 Postby SeGaBob » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:04 pm

So this will get mentioned at 8pm being they labelled it as a invest right?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#17 Postby AJC3 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:06 pm

SeGaBob wrote:So this will get mentioned at 8pm being they labelled it as a invest right?


I am pretty sure it will.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#18 Postby LarryWx » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:12 pm

:uarrow: Thanks JAX and AJC. The 12Z Euro and CMC take 91L to NC in the Monday/Tuesday period.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#19 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:14 pm

AJC3 wrote:
SeGaBob wrote:So this will get mentioned at 8pm being they labelled it as a invest right?


I am pretty sure it will.



Yes, I am pretty certain that NHC will give mention with details pertaining to Invest 91L in their next TWO.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#20 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:15 pm

Satellite gives the appearance that it is drifting south. Is that correct?
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