ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion: ATCF resumes Best Track data

#1041 Postby marionstorm » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:01 pm

Thank you. Hopefully it avoids my part of Florida. If it's going to Texas I should be good.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1042 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:40 pm

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1043 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:41 pm

Updated sat pic with obs. Buoy 41043 near 21.1N / 64.9W now has a light WNW wind. Pressure up to 1016.4mb, though. Convection dropping off. Remains a weak, disorganized swirl this afternoon.

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Models

#1044 Postby Siker » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:43 pm

Looks like ~5/20 GFS ensemble members redevelop this in the Gulf, two sub-1000mb.

Edit: Make that three sub-1000mb with one little 970mb member into Mississippi.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1045 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:53 pm

I don't recall a recon mission scheduled for something not even mentioned in the TWO.... Very odd to say the least.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1046 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:55 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:I don't recall a recon mission scheduled for something not even mentioned in the TWO.... Very odd to say the least.


Yes, very strange. Perhaps Stewart forgot to include it? I was expecting them to say 20-30%.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1047 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:56 pm

So I see they reactivated 04L, along with scheduled Recon for tomorrow afternoon yet no mention in the TWO?
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1048 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:56 pm

or their minds changed once the convection collapsed?
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1049 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:08 pm

from the buoy.. according to this.. the center is approaching the buoy from the east might go right over it.

07 10 1:30 pm NNW 5.8 7.8 - - - - 30.00 - 78.8 82.8 75.9 - - -
07 10 1:20 pm NW 7.8 11.7 - - - - 30.01 - 79.0 82.8 75.7 - - -
07 10 1:10 pm WNW 5.8 9.7 - - - - 30.01 - 79.7 82.9 77.0 - - -
07 10 1:00 pm W 7.8 11.7 - - - - 30.01 +0.01 79.7 82.9 77.2 - - -
07 10 12:50 pm W 7.8 13.6 4.9 9 6.3 E 30.01 - 80.4 82.9 77.4 - - -
07 10 12:40 pm WSW 7.8 11.7 4.9 - 6.3 E 30.01 - 82.0 82.9 77.2 - - -
07 10 12:30 pm SW 7.8 11.7 - - - - 30.01 - 82.8 82.9 77.0 - - -
07 10 12:20 pm SSW 5.8 9.7 - - - - 30.01 - 82.6 82.9 77.4 - - -
07 10 12:10 pm SW 5.8 7.8 - - - - 30.02 - 82.4 82.9 77.2 - - -
07 10 12:00 pm SSW 7.8 9.7 - - - - 30.02 +0.01 82.2 82.9 76.6 - - -
07 10 11:50 am S 7.8 9.7 4.9 9 6.1 E 30.02 - 81.5 82.9 75.0 - - -
07 10 11:40 am S 7.8 9.7 - - - - 30.01 - 79.9 82.9 73.0 - - -


though they do seem a little funky.. but we will see.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1050 Postby KyleEverett » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:08 pm

I'd say its an abundance of caution on their part. Don't want to scare people by putting it into the TWO yet, but are aware of the similarities to a certain past storm.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1051 Postby gfsperpendicular » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:13 pm

KyleEverett wrote:I'd say its an abundance of caution on their part. Don't want to scare people by putting it into the TWO yet, but are aware of the similarities to a certain past storm.


Thankfully, the atmosphere here is much drier.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1052 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:21 pm

I can't really discern where the coc is now but the convection is building again.

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1053 Postby MGC » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:22 pm

Still a good bit of dry air to the north of former TD4. Needs to move away from the ULL also. Conditions might improve in a day or two.....MGC
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1054 Postby ROCK » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:25 pm

this is all mid level....see it barfing out flow boundaries...nothing at the surface..that ULL to its NE is helping but I don't think it can give it a LLC :lol: though interesting the NHC didn't mention it and no global really does nothing with it..why send RECON? practice? odd
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1055 Postby NDG » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:27 pm

12z Euro is a little stronger with the system with this run, it really closes off a nice circulation once it enters the SE GOM.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1056 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:29 pm

NDG wrote:12z Euro is a little stronger with the system with this run, it really closes off a nice circulation once it enters the SE GOM.


Looks like it develops it right before landfall in SE Louisiana at 144 hours out.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1057 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:30 pm

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1058 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:50 pm

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I would put chances of regeneration at about 50% for the entire forecast period; I still have my doubts that it will do anything; maybe if it makes it to the gulf.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1059 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:52 pm

BobHarlem wrote:
NDG wrote:12z Euro is a little stronger with the system with this run, it really closes off a nice circulation once it enters the SE GOM.


Looks like it develops it right before landfall in SE Louisiana at 144 hours out.


Abnormally hot water temps in the North GOM.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1060 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:55 pm

pressure starting to fall at the buoy.. winds are back to the west again...

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