ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15980
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1061 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:55 pm

Any pause in forward speed for this system has the potential for increased intensification once it reaches the GOM.
0 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

BobHarlem
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2105
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:11 pm

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1062 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:55 pm

NHC must be holding out a bit waiting on persistence to mention in the outlook, having "the big sea pickle" over Florida on the Outlook graph tends to set folks off.
2 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11496
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1063 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:56 pm

Getting some new towers firing off.
Impressive for this time of day.
1 likes   

User avatar
Hurricane Andrew
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1891
Age: 26
Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 2:53 pm
Location: KS

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1064 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:01 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:pressure starting to fall at the buoy.. winds are back to the west again...

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_met.php?s ... _label=AST

What are the coordinates of that bouy?
0 likes   

The Enthusiast
NREMT-AEMT, WX nerd

Irene '11, Sandy '12, Irma '17 (SAR)

"Hard to think we were born to live this way..." -Wage War

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10145
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1065 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:04 pm

Convection starting to wane and no clear circulation center. I see why the NHC is not enthused.
0 likes   
Hurricane Eye Experience: David 79, Irene 99, Frances 04, Jeanne 04, Wilma 05... EYE COMING MY WAY IN 2024…
Hurricane Brush Experience: Andrew 92, Erin 95, Floyd 99, Matthew 16, Irma 17, Ian 22, Nicole 22…

User avatar
tailgater
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3339
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:13 pm
Location: St. Amant La.

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1066 Postby tailgater » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:05 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:pressure starting to fall at the buoy.. winds are back to the west again...

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_met.php?s ... _label=AST

So far the pressure is only .2 mb lower than this time yesterday, I think the MLC getting all that inflow had me fooled a bit earlier. Still a long ways to go. IMO
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145296
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1067 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:05 pm

AL, 04, 2017071018, , BEST, 0, 220N, 640W, 25, 1013, LO

As of 18:00 UTC Jul 10, 2017:

Location: 22.0°N 64.0°W
Maximum Winds: 25 kt Gusts: N/A
Minimum Central Pressure: 1013 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1016 mb
Radius of Circulation: 100 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 40 NM
Eye Diameter: N/A
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
Nimbus
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5300
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:54 am

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1068 Postby Nimbus » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:11 pm

The TUTT to the north of the storm is starting to drop back south again which is increasing the shear.
LLC will probably have to run west almost naked if it wants to survive.
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1069 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:12 pm

tailgater wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:pressure starting to fall at the buoy.. winds are back to the west again...

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_met.php?s ... _label=AST

So far the pressure is only .2 mb lower than this time yesterday, I think the MLC getting all that inflow had me fooled a bit earlier. Still a long ways to go. IMO


you were not fooled there was and still is data to support a weak surface low. but because of the nature of the wave axis its having some issues. just have to watch..
1 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
wxman57
Moderator-Pro Met
Moderator-Pro Met
Posts: 22978
Age: 67
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 8:06 pm
Location: Houston, TX (southwest)

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1070 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:12 pm

Most likely, it will move across the Bahamas, Florida, and the NE Gulf looking pretty much as it does now. May threat will be heavy rain vs. wind.
0 likes   

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10145
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1071 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:14 pm

cycloneye wrote:AL, 04, 2017071018, , BEST, 0, 220N, 640W, 25, 1013, LO

As of 18:00 UTC Jul 10, 2017:

Location: 22.0°N 64.0°W
Maximum Winds: 25 kt Gusts: N/A
Minimum Central Pressure: 1013 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1016 mb
Radius of Circulation: 100 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 40 NM
Eye Diameter: N/A


Ok, the initial position was 22.5N/64.1W, so the 18:00 UTC position moved 04 back SE towards the convection.
0 likes   
Hurricane Eye Experience: David 79, Irene 99, Frances 04, Jeanne 04, Wilma 05... EYE COMING MY WAY IN 2024…
Hurricane Brush Experience: Andrew 92, Erin 95, Floyd 99, Matthew 16, Irma 17, Ian 22, Nicole 22…

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11496
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1072 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:17 pm

Very cool loop showing a feed directly from the south fueling the latest vortical hot tower.
Nice helicity to it.
GOES-16 is a dramtic improvement compared to previous satellites.

http://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/ ... mmb-slider

Image
2 likes   

User avatar
Bocadude85
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2991
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:20 pm
Location: Honolulu,Hi

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1073 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:18 pm

Nimbus wrote:The TUTT to the north of the storm is starting to drop back south again which is increasing the shear.
LLC will probably have to run west almost naked if it wants to survive.


I thought shear wasn't supposed to be a problem after yesterday?
1 likes   

User avatar
ronjon
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4822
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:17 pm
Location: Hernando Beach, FL

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1074 Postby ronjon » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:21 pm

Blown Away wrote:Convection starting to wane and no clear circulation center. I see why the NHC is not enthused.


Add lack of model support too.
0 likes   

User avatar
Hurricaneman
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 7351
Age: 45
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:24 pm
Location: central florida

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1075 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:21 pm

LLC might try to reform under the convection, might be its best chance
1 likes   

Weather150
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 190
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:46 pm

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1076 Postby Weather150 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:23 pm

If this were to develop, I wouldn't expect much until it gets into the Gulf. NHC not mentioning just yet was a good call.
Last edited by Weather150 on Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:24 pm, edited 2 times in total.
1 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1077 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:23 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:LLC might try to reform under the convection, might be its best chance



there is a whole lot going on. looks like one swirl got spit to the NW.. but yeah if anything were to form or redevelop it would right there at the windshift..
0 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

hurricanehunter69
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 343
Joined: Sun May 16, 2010 5:21 pm
Location: New Orleans

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1078 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:23 pm

Recent EURO runs has me interested this afternoon. So, while checking it out....it appears to me that a significant curved band may be taking shape and thus a more defined circulation. per Mimic-TPW http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... /main.html
0 likes   

User avatar
Hurricane Andrew
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1891
Age: 26
Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 2:53 pm
Location: KS

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1079 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:24 pm

Can someone explain helicity to me? Thanks
0 likes   

The Enthusiast
NREMT-AEMT, WX nerd

Irene '11, Sandy '12, Irma '17 (SAR)

"Hard to think we were born to live this way..." -Wage War

User avatar
Bocadude85
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2991
Age: 38
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:20 pm
Location: Honolulu,Hi

Re: ATL: FOUR - Remnants - Discussion

#1080 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:26 pm

Weather150 wrote:If this were to develop, I wouldn't expect much until it gets into the Gulf. NHC not mentioning just yet was a good call.


I bet they are waiting to see what the 18z models show before making a mention at the 8pm TWO.
0 likes   


Return to “2017”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests