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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10741 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:40 am

FLpanhandle91 wrote:That eye looks like it is going to be huge once it clears.


if it clears before the shear comes... its having some issues with vertical alignment...also dry air will coming shortly.. probably not soon enough for the keys but mainland might likely to have a weakening hurricane.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10742 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:42 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:That eye looks like it is going to be huge once it clears.


if it clears before the shear comes... its having some issues with vertical alignment...


Graphic/data to support this?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10743 Postby Jevo » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:42 am

Leading edge of the eye is 43 miles from the Key West divided by 6mph sooooo 7ish hours if the speed holds
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10744 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:43 am

Jevo wrote:Leading edge of the eye is 43 miles from the Key West divided by 6mph sooooo 7ish hours if the speed holds


Smaller, degrading eye or the larger, stronger eye? Keep in mind with track/speed that this eye characteristic is still concentric.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10745 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:44 am

With the shear only increasing from here on out. what will this look like by final landfall?? Lopsided with all weather North and East of the center??
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10746 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:44 am

FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:That eye looks like it is going to be huge once it clears.


if it clears before the shear comes... its having some issues with vertical alignment...


Graphic/data to support this?

which part. ? you need only to look at satellite and radar to show the there is a lag... the shear is just to its north and will increase in the next 12 hours.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10747 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:45 am

CrazyC83 wrote:Since 1851, there has never been a year with two landfalling storms of cat 4+ intensity in the CONUS. We may be hours from history...


What about 1915?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10748 Postby MrJames » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:45 am

The latest shear map

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10749 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:46 am

it has the classic north moving radar signature of a very well pronounced northern eyewall with a large moat to the south. ...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10750 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:46 am

How many more hours until Key west?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10751 Postby Hurrilurker » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:47 am

Looks like the plane found a 926 pressure, maybe slightly strengthening.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10752 Postby chaser1 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:47 am

I hadn't looked yet but am assuming the latest GFS run has backed off its 895 mb mega-storm prediction lol
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10753 Postby Jevo » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:47 am

FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Jevo wrote:Leading edge of the eye is 43 miles from the Key West divided by 6mph sooooo 7ish hours if the speed holds


Smaller, degrading eye or the larger, stronger eye? Keep in mind with track/speed that this eye characteristic is still concentric.


I'm being pure rudimentary and using the eye feature on GRLevel3 placing a marker at the radar site and letting the software do the rest 43mi @ 153 degrees.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10754 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:49 am

it has only 6 to maybe 8 hours to really deepen before it begins to interact with the trough and transition begins.. however that does not mean the high winds and surge are not dangerous. ... just means the likelihood of RI is going away fast..
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Main Recon Thread (Data only)

#10755 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:49 am

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URNT15 KNHC 100647
AF302 2911A IRMA HDOB 42 20170910
063730 2509N 08147W 6973 03021 9909 +090 //// 080068 070 052 007 01
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064030 2510N 08202W 6970 03034 9917 +093 //// 070066 066 052 009 01
064100 2510N 08204W 6971 03034 9923 +091 //// 070066 066 054 010 05
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064200 2511N 08209W 6970 03038 9931 +086 //// 070066 067 055 011 01
064230 2511N 08212W 6968 03042 9931 +089 //// 069064 065 051 011 05
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064330 2511N 08216W 6971 03041 9901 +116 +080 067063 064 049 002 00
064400 2511N 08219W 6970 03046 9897 +122 +080 066062 064 051 001 00
064430 2511N 08221W 6965 03053 9899 +123 +076 066061 063 050 002 00
064500 2511N 08224W 6969 03049 9905 +119 +075 066063 063 050 000 00
064530 2511N 08226W 6969 03052 9905 +122 +062 065064 064 049 001 00
064600 2512N 08229W 6967 03055 9909 +120 +065 062065 065 047 001 00
064630 2512N 08231W 6973 03051 9916 +115 +074 062062 065 048 001 00
064700 2512N 08233W 6966 03058 9914 +117 +074 061060 061 049 001 00
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10756 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:49 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
if it clears before the shear comes... its having some issues with vertical alignment...


Graphic/data to support this?

which part. ? you need only to look at satellite and radar to show the there is a lag... the shear is just to its north and will increase in the next 12 hours.


Lag? sure. Standard EWRC. Shear? Where? It's got some time.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10757 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:50 am

5 hours to landfall to Key West. Should landfall around 8 a.m. or so there.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10758 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:51 am

Jevo wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Jevo wrote:Leading edge of the eye is 43 miles from the Key West divided by 6mph sooooo 7ish hours if the speed holds


Smaller, degrading eye or the larger, stronger eye? Keep in mind with track/speed that this eye characteristic is still concentric.


I'm being pure rudimentary and using the eye feature on GRLevel3 placing a marker at the radar site and letting the software do the rest 43mi @ 153 degrees.

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Based on that radar presentation, it would appear that the larger eye has completely taken hold. Would expect the smaller eye on IR to quickly disappear now, especially given its rapid cyclonic movements in recent GOES16 frames.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10759 Postby joey » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:51 am

Now with Irma a cat 4 would the steering map change
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10760 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:53 am

FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Graphic/data to support this?

which part. ? you need only to look at satellite and radar to show the there is a lag... the shear is just to its north and will increase in the next 12 hours.


Lag? sure. Standard EWRC. Shear? Where? It's got some time.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/HSxJMzs.gif[/ig]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/zY04xQr.gif[/ig]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/nLR8THq.gif[/ig]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/kfIhU3B.gif[/ig]


those are not shear images..
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