ATL: IRMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11281 Postby KBBOCA » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:48 am

That HRRR loop I just posted.... Wow. Entire east coast of FL gets the dirty side of the storm. Serious bands. And plus the storm surge in SW FL. Terrible...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11282 Postby CaptinCrunch » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:49 am

Reporter with wind meter in Miami Beach has 80 mph gust, that would translate to 110-120 mph winds 40 stories up. So yes that can damage those cranes, even in spin mode.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11283 Postby NDG » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:49 am

I did an extrap on radar based on the last 4 hours of current heading and speed, approximate timing. It shows landfall not until 4:00-4:30 PM this afternoon near Naples if it does not speed up or change heading. Keep in mind that the map below is not oriented S-N, but more like SSE-NNW tilt.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11284 Postby MrJames » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:50 am

11:00 AM EDT Sun Sep 10
Location: 25.0°N 81.5°W
Moving: N at 9 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 130 mph
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11285 Postby AdamFirst » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:51 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11286 Postby Rail Dawg » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:52 am

Ya'll remember Buys Ballot's Law from weather school right?

Put your back to the wind stick your left arm out that is where the eye is.

Judging from this here in Naples I'm starting to think direct hit.

Yeah I know there's those satellite thingys too lol.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11287 Postby ronyan » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:52 am

CaptinCrunch wrote:Reporter with wind meter in Miami Beach has 80 mph gust, that would translate to 110-120 mph winds 40 stories up. So yes that can damage those cranes, even in spin mode.


That building appeared to be about 15 stories...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11288 Postby CronkPSU » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:52 am

The center of Irma wobbled more northward over the past few hours
and the initial motion estimate is about 350/8 kt. Irma is embedded
within a broad mid-level gyre over the Gulf of Mexico. The cyclone
is expected to be steered north-northwestward at a faster forward
speed over the next day or two on the eastern side of the gyre. This
will take Irma inland over northern Florida early on Monday
and the
southeastern United States over the next couple of days. The track
guidance remains fairly tightly clustered with the ECMWF track a
little to the left and slower than the other models. The official
track forecast lies between the model consensus and the ECMWF
solution. This is just slightly east of the previous official
forecast.



from 11 AM discussion..
SAY WHAT???
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11289 Postby MrJames » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:53 am

Hurricane Irma Discussion Number 46
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL112017
1100 AM EDT Sun Sep 10 2017

Latest observations from the Air Force Hurricane Hunters had
flight-level winds that corresponded to surface winds near 110 kt.
Thus, given sampling considerations, the 115-kt intensity is
retained for this advisory. Irma should maintain this intensity
until the center reaches the southwest Florida coast, and then begin
to weaken while the system interacts with the landmass of the
Florida peninsula. Increasing southwesterly shear associated with
an upper-level trough should also cause weakening of the hurricane
during the next day or so. More rapid weakening is likely after Irma
moves into the southeastern United States in 24-36 hours, and the
cyclone should weaken to a remnant low in 72 hours or sooner. The
official intensity forecast is close to the simple and corrected
consensus models.

The center of Irma wobbled more northward over the past few hours
and the initial motion estimate is about 350/8 kt. Irma is embedded
within a broad mid-level gyre over the Gulf of Mexico. The cyclone
is expected to be steered north-northwestward at a faster forward
speed over the next day or two on the eastern side of the gyre. This
will take Irma inland over northern Florida early on Monday and the
southeastern United States over the next couple of days. The track
guidance remains fairly tightly clustered with the ECMWF track a
little to the left and slower than the other models. The official
track forecast lies between the model consensus and the ECMWF
solution. This is just slightly east of the previous official
forecast.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 10/1500Z 25.0N 81.5W 115 KT 130 MPH
12H 11/0000Z 26.6N 82.1W 110 KT 125 MPH
24H 11/1200Z 29.2N 83.0W 80 KT 90 MPH
36H 12/0000Z 31.9N 84.6W 40 KT 45 MPH...INLAND
48H 12/1200Z 33.8N 86.7W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
72H 13/1200Z 36.0N 89.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND
96H 14/1200Z 38.5N 86.5W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND
120H 15/1200Z...DISSIPATED
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11290 Postby galaxy401 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:53 am

No mention of the dropsonde anywhere. Must of been unreliable.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11291 Postby PandaCitrus » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:54 am

Marathon is under water from the surge.

 https://twitter.com/kionnemcghee/status/906878126113923072


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11292 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:56 am

NHC does produce wind charts, as well as track graphics. You can't put everything on a single chart. :)

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/093910.shtml?50wind120#wcontents

wait, actually you can with there new interactive chart. Forecast error cone is as important as wind speed area IMO.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/093910.shtml?gm_track#contents
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11294 Postby Portaransas » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:00 am

Jeff Piotrowski looks to be set up very close to the where eye will land (again). Should be some great footage https://www.periscope.tv/Jeff_Piotrowski/1MnGnmNQrAyKO?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11295 Postby MrJames » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:04 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Main Recon Thread (Data only)

#11296 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:05 am

000
URNT15 KNHC 101502
AF306 3011A IRMA HDOB 34 20170910
145300 2429N 08101W 6963 02940 9781 +119 +119 216082 085 063 007 00
145330 2430N 08102W 6966 02929 9778 +118 //// 216079 081 063 008 01
145400 2432N 08104W 6967 02922 9769 +121 +121 213074 078 059 006 00
145430 2433N 08105W 6969 02915 9759 +119 //// 213073 075 058 006 01
145500 2434N 08106W 6967 02911 9742 +120 +117 211073 074 058 005 00
145530 2436N 08108W 6967 02903 9734 +123 +114 211074 074 059 003 00
145600 2437N 08109W 6967 02896 9725 +122 +113 213075 076 074 008 03
145630 2438N 08111W 6967 02887 9713 +125 +113 214078 079 061 003 00
145700 2440N 08112W 6967 02880 9707 +124 +121 215081 082 061 005 00
145730 2441N 08114W 6969 02867 9693 +127 +105 215080 081 063 004 00
145800 2442N 08115W 6970 02857 9688 +122 +104 214083 084 059 002 00
145830 2443N 08116W 6967 02849 9676 +122 +104 214087 088 058 006 00
145900 2445N 08118W 6964 02840 9657 +124 +101 213089 090 077 009 00
145930 2446N 08119W 6965 02817 9636 +126 +112 212089 090 078 010 03
150000 2447N 08121W 6978 02788 9614 +128 +121 220092 093 065 008 00
150030 2448N 08122W 6961 02785 9590 +129 +114 224096 099 067 008 00
150100 2450N 08123W 6957 02765 9561 +134 +133 225097 099 076 009 00
150130 2451N 08124W 6975 02724 9531 +137 +137 225095 098 077 006 00
150200 2452N 08126W 6967 02705 9497 +142 +140 229099 100 082 006 00
150230 2453N 08127W 6974 02667 9459 +149 +135 234098 100 080 004 00
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11297 Postby KBBOCA » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:06 am

15 different flood warnings for NWS Tampa Bay area just hit my Twitter feed...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11298 Postby StormingB81 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:06 am

MrJames wrote:Image



They going to stick with it..probably just saw it was still in the cone if it doesnt get back on track ...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11299 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:07 am

 https://twitter.com/RLuettich/status/906896240205582336




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Rick Luettich @RLuettich
The maximum storm surge + waves in Naples will be ~ 2-3 hrs after eye. Combination can be devastating. #Irma
11:04 AM - Sep 10, 2017
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11300 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:08 am

CronkPSU wrote:
The center of Irma wobbled more northward over the past few hours
and the initial motion estimate is about 350/8 kt. Irma is embedded
within a broad mid-level gyre over the Gulf of Mexico. The cyclone
is expected to be steered north-northwestward at a faster forward
speed over the next day or two on the eastern side of the gyre. This
will take Irma inland over northern Florida early on Monday
and the
southeastern United States over the next couple of days. The track
guidance remains fairly tightly clustered with the ECMWF track a
little to the left and slower than the other models. The official
track forecast lies between the model consensus and the ECMWF
solution. This is just slightly east of the previous official
forecast.



from 11 AM discussion..
SAY WHAT???


Well, NHC has responded with a slight adjustment east of thirvprevious official track. So, essentially, Irma's center will move a bit closer up the spine of the peninsula. Areas like Orlando, Ocala, and Gainesville will get a bit closer to Irma's center if this shift east continues.
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