ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1141 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:49 pm

Since this is the leftovers from Harvey, does this become Harvey if it forms again? And I'm surprised it's not tagged as an Invest yet? Or will it skip the Invest stage since it is the remnants of a former storm?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1142 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:51 pm

Does confirm circulation is under convection, now it just needs the low to close.

[quote="panamatropicwatch"]Latest WindSat:

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1143 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:52 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Since this is the leftovers from Harvey, does this become Harvey if it forms again? And I'm surprised it's not tagged as an Invest yet? Or will it skip the Invest stage since it is the remnants of a former storm?


Yes.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1144 Postby HurricaneBrain » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:15 pm

And the center of that convection looks to be about 50-75 miles NNE of the latest marine surface plot.
panamatropicwatch wrote:Does confirm circulation is under convection, now it just needs the low to close.

panamatropicwatch wrote:Latest WindSat:

http://tropicwatch.info/WindSat082220170004.jpg
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1145 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:29 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:And the center of that convection looks to be about 50-75 miles NNE of the latest marine surface plot.
panamatropicwatch wrote:Does confirm circulation is under convection, now it just needs the low to close.

panamatropicwatch wrote:Latest WindSat:

http://tropicwatch.info/WindSat082220170004.jpg



I remember someone pointing that out as the spot earlier :lol: The NHC has went with a position further SW, but they are the experts.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1146 Postby HurricaneBrain » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:32 pm

X is roughly where the latest plot is, and I'm seeing a closing center further north, anyone else agree?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1147 Postby stormreader » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:34 pm

And if the center is in fact organizing there (50-75 miles NNE of what was expected), I think it increases the chances for a landfall farther north and east. Its what I've been saying. If true, lets wait for this to be inputed into models.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1148 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:38 pm

I have it roughly in that position where the X is above...

whats scary is it is not wasting any time in consolidating a center. I mean it just moved of the Yuc geezz
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1149 Postby crimi481 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:49 pm

Possible that 92l and Harvey hook up - center forms between them - central gulf. ULL may help the cause

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1150 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:16 pm

its pretty apparent that northern vort/circ I mentioned earlier developed and took over quite rapidly. convective pattern has improved quite a bit.

which by the way is north of all the models intialized positions. models likely to shift towards eastern texas now.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1151 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:33 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:its pretty apparent that northern vort/circ I mentioned earlier developed and took over quite rapidly. convective pattern has improved quite a bit.

which by the way is north of all the models intialized positions. models likely to shift towards eastern texas now.


I am in eastern Texas. What do you thing our rain count will be?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1152 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:37 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:its pretty apparent that northern vort/circ I mentioned earlier developed and took over quite rapidly. convective pattern has improved quite a bit.

which by the way is north of all the models intialized positions. models likely to shift towards eastern texas now.


I am in eastern Texas. What do you thing our rain count will be?


That is tough to say for anyone. depending on what model you look at currently. its not good either way. always best to just prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

the eratic motion in some of the models is concerning. lets just hope it does not make landfal, stall, then move back over water organize again and well you know... not good.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1153 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:39 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
sphelps8681 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:its pretty apparent that northern vort/circ I mentioned earlier developed and took over quite rapidly. convective pattern has improved quite a bit.

which by the way is north of all the models intialized positions. models likely to shift towards eastern texas now.


I am in eastern Texas. What do you thing our rain count will be?


That is tough to say for anyone. depending on what model you look at currently. its not good either way. always best to just prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

the eratic motion in some of the models is concerning. lets just hope it does not make landfal, stall, then move back over water organize again and well you know... not good.


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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1154 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:48 pm

One quick observation, the current shear is a LOT higher than the models are analyzing. SHIPS had about 5 kts. It's more like 15, but will soon decrease
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1155 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:49 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:Latest WindSat:

http://tropicwatch.info/WindSat082220170004.jpg



So as soon as it closes it off it will be minimum 45 Kt TS.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1156 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:51 pm

Alyono wrote:One quick observation, the current shear is a LOT higher than the models are analyzing. SHIPS had about 5 kts. It's more like 15, but will soon decrease


Eh 15 is not bad..probably of that ULL next to it
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1157 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:54 pm

ROCK wrote:
Alyono wrote:One quick observation, the current shear is a LOT higher than the models are analyzing. SHIPS had about 5 kts. It's more like 15, but will soon decrease


Eh 15 is not bad..probably of that ULL next to it

Not enough to kill it unfortunately
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1158 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:56 pm

With winds like that on the windsat this may already be a tropical storm with 50mph winds, if so imo this is already stronger than any model has this up to this point which gets me increasingly worried
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1159 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:57 pm

Got a good anticyclone over head but yeah the ULL not in the best position currently..25knoys of shear close to it.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Remnants - Discussion

#1160 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:00 am

do not use windsat for wind magnitudes
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