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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1461 Postby sma10 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:03 pm

Also - will someone be able to post the Euro ensembles later? I know they go out a bit further in time than 240hrs and I'm interested in how they treat "would be" Jose, who appears to be bending towards the left as if the ridge has gotten him.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1462 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:05 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1463 Postby stormhunter7 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:05 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:The 588 and 591DM backs way down @240.... Think a final destination toward the upper Gulf Coast from New Orleans to Panama City.


seems to follow what is would be the weak area forcasted to spin up in GOM? Central gulf coast would be prime target i would think?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1464 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:08 pm

Well I'm trying to just breath a bit here...
GFS - Bermuda up to Maine
ECMWF - hits the leeward islands -Shoots the slot - into Key West


Yep- 12-1400 mile cone sounds about right- Not make light of it. But Euro has been consistently cutting off the low over the midwest and retrograding it. That's the big enchilada on the track for the US. We shall see, still too far out.

Nonetheless I CONSISTENTLY don't like the Euro solutions lately- That is verifying
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1465 Postby Steve » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:08 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:The 588 and 591DM backs way down @240.... Think a final destination toward the upper Gulf Coast from New Orleans to Panama City.


Yeah, maybe even all the way west to Morgan City or so to Panama City but most likely somewhere between Bay St. Louis and Pensacola. I'd love to know whether the European slows down or keeps on moving. If it keeps on moving, it's going to still have a western component at landfall.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1466 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:12 pm

12Z Euro run animation

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1467 Postby WAcyclone » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:14 pm

ECMWF HRES animation between hour 108 and 240:

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1468 Postby txwatcher91 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:15 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:The GFS nor the Euro want to budge on their 6 to 10 day ideas. In the end I think they both will give a little and we end up with something in the middle.


Agreed, I think we end up seeing a storm in the Bahamas that comes close to FL but gets pulled N by a weakness and heads for NC.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1469 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:17 pm

God. I hope and pray this goes out to sea. After watching a video of two cats swimming in a flooded neighborhood and trying desperately to find something above the flooded water to swim to, I just can't take too much more of this. :(
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1470 Postby forecasterjack » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:19 pm

WAcyclone wrote:ECMWF HRES animation between hour 108 and 240:

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Source: weather.us

Awesome animation :) you can use the menus to the left of the image to select other parameters like simulated radar, 700mb RH, winds, lots of good stuff in there!
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1471 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:19 pm

So a model that overdoes troughing (GFS) vs a model that over does ridging (Euro)...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1472 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:19 pm

txwatcher91 wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:The GFS nor the Euro want to budge on their 6 to 10 day ideas. In the end I think they both will give a little and we end up with something in the middle.


Agreed, I think we end up seeing a storm in the Bahamas that comes close to FL but gets pulled N by a weakness and heads for NC.

I am thinking this more a one or the other type scenario
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1473 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:21 pm

txwatcher91 wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:The GFS nor the Euro want to budge on their 6 to 10 day ideas. In the end I think they both will give a little and we end up with something in the middle.


Agreed, I think we end up seeing a storm in the Bahamas that comes close to FL but gets pulled N by a weakness and heads for NC.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1474 Postby caneseddy » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:26 pm

forecasterjack wrote:
WAcyclone wrote:ECMWF HRES animation between hour 108 and 240:

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Source: weather.us

Awesome animation :) you can use the menus to the left of the image to select other parameters like simulated radar, 700mb RH, winds, lots of good stuff in there!


What's fascinating about that run is that if Irma does not take that little west jog in the Bahamas it is on a beeline straight into South Florida....we shall see.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1475 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:29 pm

tolakram wrote:12Z Euro run animation

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Thanks for this animation. Notice Irma rides inside the 588dm and at the last run position it has backed way off and even east of Florida. With that I would have to surmise with the trough to its west it makes a sharp turn northward in the SE GOM to follow the least path of resistance or the mean position between the High and the Trough.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1476 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:30 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1477 Postby WAcyclone » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:30 pm

forecasterjack wrote:
WAcyclone wrote:ECMWF HRES animation between hour 108 and 240:

http://i.imgur.com/RYhhE8s.gif

Source: weather.us

Awesome animation :) you can use the menus to the left of the image to select other parameters like simulated radar, 700mb RH, winds, lots of good stuff in there!


Yeah, but it takes a lot of time to download and resize every single frame. To create animations, a "make GIF" or at least a "download whole run" button would make things a lot easier :wink: I will probably do another GIF once the control run is out...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1478 Postby tgenius » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:31 pm

Does anyone have a general idea of the forward speed at the end of that Euro Run? Curious to see how fast across the FL Straights she would be going.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1479 Postby txwatcher91 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:32 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:Image


This is last night's run, hopefully the new EPS will be out soon and someone can post a graphic or summary of what they show.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1480 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:33 pm

txwatcher91 wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Image


This is last night's run, hopefully the new EPS will be out soon and someone can post a graphic or summary of what they show.


I missed it...Been looking at too many charts and maps!!!
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