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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1501 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:31 pm

Attention then quickly turns to the tropics for Thursday through
the weekend. The remnants of Harvey are expected to rapidly
develop into a tropical system over the western Gulf of Mexico
during this time. All of the global guidance is in fair agreement
with the track of this system inland somewhere from the Coastal
Bend into the middle Texas coast late Friday. This is a shift
northward from yesterday`s solutions but seems very plausible
given the strengthening subtropical ridge over the southwestern
U.S. and persistent troughing over the eastern U.S. We`re still a
little far out for specifics on the strength of the system, but it
does appear that at least parts of North and Central Texas could
be impacted by this system by Friday into the weekend. Based on
the latest forecast tracks by the global guidance and with support
from many of the ensemble members of the GFS/ECMWF and Canadian,
copious amounts of rainfall could fall from Central Texas into
southeast Texas through the weekend. Right now, it looks like most
of our area would be on the northern and northwestern periphery
of the storm, which is typically a more subsident and drier side.
It`s too early for details, but we`ll have generally high PoPs
from Friday night through Sunday across our far southern and
southeastern counties. We`ve capped PoPs at 60% for this forecast
cycle based on timing/track uncertainties, but it should be noted
that if a full blown tropical cyclone develops, very tight
gradients in PoPs/rainfall amounts are common especially on the
north/northwest sides of the systems. So, this will need to be
closely monitored over the next 48-72 hours and the forecast will
likely change many times.


How many of these models are taking into consideration the cold front (and a pretty strong one at that) that will be pushing south across TX over the next 36 hours. This should pull the system northward before pushing it off to the E/NE. I say this will probably be a central TX coastal landfall.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1502 Postby lsuhurricane » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:32 pm

The Euro at 144 actually looks like it pushes it back southeast because of the building western ridge.

jmho



And somehow strengthening in the process!

998 MB 100 miles east of CC at Hour 156 per WeatherBell
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1503 Postby hd44 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:33 pm

12z Jma throws a wildcard after day 3. It turns out it never makes landfall through day 3 and moves back ese and hanging out in the central gulf of mexico.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1504 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:35 pm

It bounces back SE.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1505 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:37 pm

Heading east now.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1506 Postby Pearl River » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:37 pm

Euro back out over the open water at 168.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1507 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:38 pm

Back over Gulf and strengthening :eek:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1508 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:38 pm

The model blend still indicates a slow moving rainmaker of unknown strength near or on the Texas coast and possibly heading back toward the eastern gulf, either over water or onshore.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1509 Postby hd44 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:39 pm

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Jma which has a good handle on 500 mb features in the mid range imo, has this flooding Louisiana but never makes landfall and could be headed well east of even Ukmet if it ever makes landfall.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1510 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:43 pm

EURO 12z SW LA

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1511 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:43 pm

12 Euro seems to show sheared TS maybe Cat1... Huge rain maker, yikes... :rain:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1512 Postby Pearl River » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:43 pm

At 192, back inland around Lake Charles and Lafayette.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1513 Postby TexWx » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:44 pm

Wow all over the place.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1514 Postby Frank P » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:45 pm

What, this is the third run in a row for the Euro in which it hits the TX coast, then heads back out into the Gulf, and hits LA... that is pretty consistent, but just plain crazy... looks reasonable to me though :eek:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1515 Postby Janie2006 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:47 pm

According to this model Harvey takes a tour of a lot of the Gulf Coast. Flooding could be a major concern for a whole lot of people from Texas on eastward.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1516 Postby stormreader » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:48 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:EURO 12z SW LA

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Very reasonable. I still favor slightly west of that run, more like Port Arthur or Sabine Pass at the Tex-La border. But splitting hairs here, that's very close.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1517 Postby stormreader » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:49 pm

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Wx_Warrior wrote:EURO 12z SW LA

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Very reasonable. I still favor slightly west of that run, more like Port Arthur or Sabine Pass at the Tex-La border. But splitting hairs here, that's very close.

Of course, big difference is that this is a second landfall, with first being on Texas coast.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1518 Postby Frank P » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:49 pm

12z CMC is a little similar to the Euro, albeit a little faster and a touch more east, has it over NOLA at hour 168... probably something that the whodats really don't want to see.... :eek:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1519 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:49 pm

While the intensity consistency from the Euro is not good, the track has been very consistent. It is almost identical to yesterday's 12z run through 168 hr!!!!!!!!!!!! Horrible for SE TX and SW LA!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#1520 Postby OntarioEggplant » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:51 pm

I think I'm most confused about the Euro showing it strengthening while it's over land in Texas.
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