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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1741 Postby TJRE » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:53 pm

A small bit of research...that may come into play the next round or two!

http://www.hurricanecity.com/hebertbox.htm

I always thought tracking from Jersey, would keep me neutral----- till Sandy :idea:
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1742 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:55 pm

Evening Steve,

I could not agree more. What a great post I could not agree more, I know we all including the long time poster all have a feeling or have studied the models. But science and past tracks of storm in certain areas are all just an approcsimate idea of where we feel a storm would go. So aw Steve said no harm intended but please reframe from posting something because it's just a guess or how you feel.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1743 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:56 pm

Evening Steve,

I could not agree more. What a great post I could not agree more, I know we all including the long time poster all have a feeling or have studied the models. But science and past tracks of storm in certain areas are all just an approcsimate idea of where we feel a storm would go. So aw Steve said no harm intended but please reframe from posting something because it's just a guess or how you feel.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1744 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:57 pm

Mod's some how I have a duplicate post, please do what ever you need to to correct it
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#1745 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:05 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1746 Postby TJRE » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:11 pm

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/image ... 40_us.html

IMHO the best site to view the long range (10day) scenarios...hands down!!!

scroll thru it, if you are a newbie at Storm2k
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1747 Postby beoumont » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:12 pm

TJRE wrote:A small bit of research...that may come into play the next round or two!

http://www.hurricanecity.com/hebertbox.htm

I always thought tracking from Jersey, would keep me neutral----- till Sandy :idea:


I attended almost every daily NHC after lunch map discussion for 40 years (1965 - 2004) with the specialists taking turns leading the daily discussion of activity in the tropics and interactive prognostications on what would happen next with the entire on shift personnel of both the NHC and NWS Miami office. I have always considered Paul Hebert to be the most knowledged and skilled hurricane forecaster of all time. Not many people have a box named after them. Of course, he knew that there are no absolutes when it comes to hurricane tendencies.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1748 Postby tgenius » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:15 pm

Has there ever been a storm that went through Hebert box that DID NOT hit Florida?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1749 Postby Raebie » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:16 pm

Steve wrote:
Raebie wrote:
Kazmit wrote:


I've never managed to understand the conversion. The entire post might as well have been written in Latin.
:D


It's this easy: Multiply times 1.8 and add 32.


<pulling out calculator>
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1750 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:18 pm

I work at FIU and there was a time before 9/11 I was able to go through the NHC like I worked there. I miss that privalge I got to know a lot of people there. Even though I don't have the access I did, they are the best to get reliable information from.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1751 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:20 pm

Great question,

And the answer from one poster is not the most comforting answer you want to see.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1752 Postby Raebie » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:20 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
tgenius wrote:Has there ever been a storm that went through Hebert box that DID NOT hit Florida?

Andrew


Um, what?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1753 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:20 pm

tgenius wrote:Has there ever been a storm that went through Hebert box that DID NOT hit Florida?


Yes many many storms, click the link posted above and you will see that just because a storm moves through the Hebert box does not mean a USA landfall will occur.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1754 Postby 1900hurricane » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:20 pm

tgenius wrote:Has there ever been a storm that went through Hebert box that DID NOT hit Florida?

Plenty, but that's probably a discussion for the main thread. It has nothing to do with models.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1755 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:20 pm

Raebie wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
tgenius wrote:Has there ever been a storm that went through Hebert box that DID NOT hit Florida?

Andrew


Um, what?

I read that wrong, I read it as DID NOT hit the Hebert Box, it's been a long day and my brain isn't exactly firing on all cylinders.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1756 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:21 pm

tgenius wrote:Has there ever been a storm that went through Hebert box that DID NOT hit Florida?


most that go through the box MISS Florida
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1757 Postby TJRE » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:21 pm

beoumont wrote:
I attended almost every daily NHC after lunch discussion for 40 years (1965 - 2004) with the specialists taking turns leading the daily discussion of activity in the tropics and interactive prognostications on what would happen next with the entire on shift personnel of both the NHC and NWS Miami office. I have always considered Paul Hebert to be the most knowledged and skilled hurricane forecaster of all time. Not many people have a box named after them. Of course, he knew that there are no absolutes when it comes to hurricane tendencies.



Powerful stuff indeed.... I will look forward to your posts in the days ahead
thank you for that!!!

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1758 Postby tgenius » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:12 pm

00z GFS should start rolling out in about 30 minutes. I'm curious if GFS continues the southern and western adjustments we've been seeing the last few model runs.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1759 Postby pcolaman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:14 pm

Alyono wrote:
tgenius wrote:Has there ever been a storm that went through Hebert box that DID NOT hit Florida?


most that go through the box MISS Florida

The article read that 9 out of 10 from the 1900 dis hit south fla
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1760 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:15 pm

The GFS run should be interesting I am purely guessing here but thinking it will come back south and west just a bit.
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