ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1761 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:31 am

Those flood models from boarder to boarder aint new. Just those should have been enough
for pre-preparation.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1762 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:32 am

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1763 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:33 am

hd44 wrote:
NDG wrote:Within the next 10 minutes or so recon will let us know how stronger Harvey has gotten since the last recon pass 4 hours ago.


Im going 985 and 70 mph ... lets see.


Well recon just measured 985 so you are halfway there
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1764 Postby AubreyStorm » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:33 am

Well, well! Today I will go up to Aubrey!

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1765 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:34 am

Need to sample the NE quad, could see some high-end TS winds there.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1766 Postby hd44 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:35 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Need to sample the NE quad, could see some high-end TS winds there.

70 or 75 mph likely.985 pressure is indicating of cat 1 cane usually.(low end cat 1)
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1767 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:35 am

A special advisory to increase forecast winds to near 100 knots probably necessary. A crazy morning at NHC.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1768 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:35 am

Ntxw wrote:
NDG wrote:Pressure down to around 985mb!!!!!!!!!

112600 2344N 09255W 8430 01367 9853 +199 +189 139015 019 019 000 03


RI, GFS doesn't look so crazy now.


I'm beginning to wonder about that 923 mb NAM run a couple of days ago. :eek:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1769 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:36 am

mass low level cloud on earlier microwaves was a good inderaction a future eyewall coming
was just a matter of wrapping tighter.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1770 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:37 am

hd44 wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Need to sample the NE quad, could see some high-end TS winds there.

70 or 75 mph likely.985 pressure is indicating of cat 1 cane usually.(low end cat 1)


Winds usually take a little longer to catch up with that much of a MSLP drop, but no doubt they will soon, especially for a small storm like Harvey.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1771 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:37 am

NDG wrote:Pressure down to around 985mb!!!!!!!!!

112600 2344N 09255W 8430 01367 9853 +199 +189 139015 019 019 000 03


Thats T4 ATL= cat1
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1772 Postby msp » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:38 am

also of note: appears to be already to the right of the forecast track

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1773 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:38 am

Amazing, just 24 hrs ago the models were forecasting Harvey to be just a weak 1004 mb storm this morning.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1774 Postby Ntxw » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:39 am

Digital-TC-Chaser wrote:
NDG wrote:Pressure down to around 985mb!!!!!!!!!

112600 2344N 09255W 8430 01367 9853 +199 +189 139015 019 019 000 03


Thats T4 ATL= cat1


Yeah, dvorak is not needed when you have recon, but in other basins it would be T4
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1775 Postby hd44 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:39 am

00z Ecmwf model is laughably low on intensity. Gfs got it right as I can see anyone wana chime in'..
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1776 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:40 am

62 knot flight level winds in the SE quadrant, should be upgraded to at least 50 knots. Highter winds probably in the NE quadrant though.

112900 2338N 09248W 8424 01423 9916 +180 +178 205060 062 043 003 01
112930 2337N 09247W 8425 01429 9921 +188 +172 203060 062 046 005 00
113000 2336N 09246W 8434 01434 9944 +176 +171 206059 060 049 009 00
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1777 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:41 am

hd44 wrote:00z Ecmwf model is laughably low on intensity. Gfs got it right as I can see anyone wana chime in'..


Yes the Euro has been very inconsistent this year on strength.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1778 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:41 am

EURO is laughable on intensity at best right now.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1779 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:41 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
hd44 wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Need to sample the NE quad, could see some high-end TS winds there.

70 or 75 mph likely.985 pressure is indicating of cat 1 cane usually.(low end cat 1)


Winds usually take a little longer to catch up with that much of a MSLP drop, but no doubt they will soon, especially for a small storm like Harvey.


Yeah I suspect we will look at a wind ramp up in 9-12hrs time, but the pressure drop is VERY worrying, its already deeper than the ECM ever gets this before landfall.

Certainly suggesting an RI is now underway with that sort of pressure drop.

I wouldn't stress too much about wobble wars right now, a rapidly strengthening system will whip around somewhat along its trajectory.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1780 Postby SouthDadeFish » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:41 am

Folks, this is a very serious situation. Hurricane impacts are essentially guaranteed at this point. Considering recent observations and modeling simulations, there is a very real possibility the US has its first landfalling major hurricane since 2005. Residents in the path of the storm need to listen to their local emergency management and take the necessary precautions. If you have friends or family in the path of the storm, please make sure they are ready for the impact of a hurricane.
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