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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1841 Postby Exalt » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:34 pm

1900hurricane wrote:Image


The merging eyewall looks like it's on the verge of maxing out the microwave scale :eek:
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1842 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:36 pm

The eye is really torching now based on pretty much any IR/WV band you can pick on GOES-16.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1843 Postby bp92 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:36 pm

This almost feels like we're getting all the storms we didn't get in 2013-15 due to the poor upper-level conditions.

So now that we don't have the shear anymore these systems have ridiculously warm water to feed off of.

And, as it was mentioned, we're getting cat.5s in the Atlantic and eastern Caribbean. If I'm not wrong, all sub-910mb storms in the Atlantic other than Labor Day '35 (and now Maria) peaked in either the western Carribean or the Gulf of Mexico.

Once systems start reaching that area (and upper-level conditions allow it), things are going to get even crazier. And, unlike Jose, there's no way stroms over there will get away without hitting anything.

Hopefully I'm wrong...
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1844 Postby Hurrilurker » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:37 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
dukeblue219 wrote:Eyewall dropsonde is in, transmitted 2308Z, splashed in 168 KNOT surface wind gusts. Good lord.


If that is legit, the intensity could be 170 kt. Would be a basin record.

That's basically high-end F3 tornado wind speeds, only much larger and lasting much longer.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1845 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:37 pm

1900hurricane wrote:The eye is really torching now based on pretty much any IR/WV band you can pick on GOES-16.


I'm watching it. Refreshing it. And wonder where the Pacific Ocean is in the picture. THIS storm looks more like a WestPac typhoon than an Atlantic Hurricane. God help those poor people down there.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1846 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:39 pm

Watch the eye warm on the low level water vapor loop.

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1847 Postby dizzyfish » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:39 pm

Having Irma very fresh in my mind I am feeling absolutely terrified for the Islanders in the path of Maria.

I am astounded by what we are seeing. It just goes against all I have learned over the years. How is this possible?

God bless all.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1848 Postby PandaCitrus » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:39 pm

It's going to be very close but looking more possible based on that long radar loop that st. Croix will narrowly miss the northern eyewall with the Cat 5 winds. They may get Cat 2/3 winds. Its going to be razor close. Wobble watching all evening. 10 miles or less margin for error between total destruction and moderate damage.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1849 Postby dukeblue219 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:39 pm

The plane is probably in the eye right this moment. The last datapoint at 7:35PM shows 931mb with 142kt flight level winds (west or nw area of eyewall).
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1850 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:40 pm

Well would you look at those cloud tops...

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#1851 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:40 pm

That is one of the most perfect donut's I have ever seen on radar..
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1852 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:43 pm

Honestly, the most violent looking Atlantic hurricane in the satellite era imo. :eek:
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1853 Postby Hurrilurker » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:43 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:It's going to be very close but looking more possible based on that long radar loop that st. Croix will narrowly miss the northern eyewall with the Cat 5 winds. They may get Cat 2/3 winds. Its going to be razor close. Wobble watching all evening. 10 miles or less margin for error between total destruction and moderate damage.

They're going to get a ton of storm surge though. Like I said earlier, it's likely the airport (south side of island, right on water, near 0 elevation) will be completely submerged along with much of the southern coast.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1854 Postby stephen23 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:43 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
dukeblue219 wrote:Eyewall dropsonde is in, transmitted 2308Z, splashed in 168 KNOT surface wind gusts. Good lord.


If that is legit, the intensity could be 170 kt. Would be a basin record.

That's basically high-end F3 tornado wind speeds, only much larger and lasting much longer.


That would be equivalent to an EF-4 on new enhanced scale
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1855 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:44 pm

Unreal few weeks of weather in the tropics. :eek:
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1856 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:45 pm

I have no words left.....
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1857 Postby JaxGator » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:46 pm

Irma has really expanded in size and so have the width of the hurricane force winds according to Recon. Man these dropsonde readings are incredible..
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1858 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:46 pm

stephen23 wrote:
Hurrilurker wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
If that is legit, the intensity could be 170 kt. Would be a basin record.

That's basically high-end F3 tornado wind speeds, only much larger and lasting much longer.


That would be equivalent to an EF-4 on new enhanced scale


And the EF scale winds are based on three-second gusts, while this is based on one minute sustained... terrifying, really
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1859 Postby abajan » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:49 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Could this close off a CDG ring and head off into insanity in terms of intensity?

Maybe "insanity" should be used instead of "intensity", when hurricanes get this strong. For instance, we would ask "What insanity did Irma reach?" :lol:
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1860 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:49 pm

905.7mb found

Looks like Dean's place is up next on the chopping board.
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