ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2641 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:02 pm

Kingarabian wrote:http://i.imgur.com/9UokKU4.gif

Continues to have trouble establishing outflow to the south. Convection consistently looks shallow, ragged, and limited in the southern quads.


I think you mean to say outflow to it SW quadrant.
It still has a good outflow which reaches all the way to C.A. on its SE quadrant.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2642 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:05 pm

At this rate, you guys will be back to calling the season a bust in an hour. :lol:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2643 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:06 pm

NDG wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:http://i.imgur.com/9UokKU4.gif

Continues to have trouble establishing outflow to the south. Convection consistently looks shallow, ragged, and limited in the southern quads.


I think you mean to say outflow to it SW quadrant.
It still has a good outflow which reaches all the way to C.A. on its SE quadrant.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/L9xt94d.gif[img]


Nice illustration.

I guess the outflow to the SE is decent. To the immediate south and south west, not so much. Some systems naturally don't need much southerly flow to strengthen. But in Harvey's case it plainly looks restricted and in some way it's affecting the system.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2644 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:07 pm

Just want to stop in here and wish all of my fellow Storm2K'ers from Texas and Louisiana the best of luck with Harvey. Here in South Florida it has been cloudy and damp most of the day due to 92L as we remember the 25th Anniversary of Hurricane Andrew. Thoughts and prayers are with you as you prepare for much more than cloudy and damp. Hopefully Harvey will not turn out to be as bad as it could be.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2645 Postby GCANE » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:07 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2646 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:07 pm

Its fine if it's only forecast to be a Cat.2. But the GFS is saying Cat.4 and the NHC is saying Cat.3. If so, the whole system needs to look impressive and it's clearly restricted to the south.


The thing is, it can take care of that problem in a quick 3 to 4 hours. So it has a ton of time left before it makes land fall tomorrow night or early Saturday Morning
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2647 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:08 pm

Why is the storm struggling to strengthen? It seems to be in a perfect environment, but yet not taking off at all. Hmmm. Good news, or maybe some good news for Texas and LA. :sun:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2648 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:08 pm

RL3AO wrote:At this rate, you guys will be back to calling the season a bust in an hour. :lol:


I seasoned cancelled as soon as I saw that pressure drop was only 4 mb since the last advisory and that the pressure was not at 965 :D
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2649 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:08 pm

This has a excellent divergent outflow going SSW .look @ the upper flow.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/w ... 25.55,2047
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2650 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:09 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Why is the storm struggling to strengthen? It seems to be in a perfect environment, but yet not taking off at all. Hmmm. Good news, or maybe some good news for Texas and LA. :sun:

Diurnal min has likely slowed the strengthening. But this thing should take back off tonight. Still has plenty of time left to become a major and looks well on its way.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2651 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:09 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:Just want to stop in here and wish all of my fellow Storm2K'ers from Texas and Louisiana the best of luck with Harvey. Here in South Florida it has been cloudy and damp most of the day due to 92L as we remember the 25th Anniversary of Hurricane Andrew. Thoughts and prayers are with you as you prepare for much more than cloudy and damp. Hopefully Harvey will not turn out to be as bad as it could be.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2652 Postby galaxy401 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:10 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Why is the storm struggling to strengthen? It seems to be in a perfect environment, but yet not taking off at all. Hmmm. Good news, or maybe some good news for Texas and LA. :sun:


Uhh I think strength isn't going to matter in the long run considering up to 3 feet of rain is forecasted there...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2653 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:10 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
RL3AO wrote:At this rate, you guys will be back to calling the season a bust in an hour. :lol:


I seasoned cancelled as soon as I saw that pressure drop was only 4 mb since the last advisory and that the pressure was not at 965 :D



Chances of cat3 have gone down but certainly not season cancelled.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2654 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:10 pm

Don't know what some of you are seeing but I see Harvey getting that more rounded highly convective ball like core developing, if they go on to get that buzzsaw look, look out!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2655 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:10 pm

we now anniversary of hurr Andrew look what waiting for texas
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2656 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:11 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Yeah I agree that Harvey does look kind of ragged and I'm thinking this will likely peak at Cat.2.


I doubt it. Look what it looked like yesterday afternoon. Did you think we'd be sitting at an 85mph cane today? I sure didn't. 24 hours is a TON of time do a cane to go from cat 1 to cat 3 or even 4
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2657 Postby ALhurricane » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:11 pm

I don't get a chance to post much these days, but think a little perspective is in order regarding the strengthening. Keep in mind the most ideal conditions for RI as shown by all of the guidance is tomorrow. This has plenty of time to reach Cat 3/4. Just go back to images from yesterday and see how far this storm has come.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2658 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:12 pm

If Harvey doesn't intensify, that only means that the Euro solution is likely to be more correct as it has a 975mb hurricane making landfall. It also means the Houston/Galveston area and SWLA could be at risk since what the Euro solution is also showing.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2659 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:12 pm

looks like it is intensifying a little once again based upon the goes 16 satellite. Seeing another attempt to form an eye
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2660 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:12 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Yeah I agree that Harvey does look kind of ragged and I'm thinking this will likely peak at Cat.2.


I doubt it. Look what it looked like yesterday afternoon. Did you think we'd be sitting at an 85mph cane today? I sure didn't. 24 hours is a TON of time do a cane to go from cat 1 to cat 3 or even 4

I agree. This was forecasted by some models to become a 3 while they also had it weak right now. It technically shouldn't even be this strong yet in the first place.
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