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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2781 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:58 pm

THe CDO is becoming much more stable. if that northern eyewall is a sign .. then the next few hours are going to be interesting..
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2782 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Anyone know why they keep doing all the loopy loops in the eye each pass from the AF plane ?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2783 Postby Soonercane » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:00 pm

I thought the NHC mentioned dry air intrusion/weakening? The pressure is down but that could be temporary right? Trying to make up mind whether to stay or leave (in Victoria on central TX coast).
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2784 Postby Exalt » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:00 pm

If they find 85kt, could the forecast possibly be upped to a Cat 4 landfall? Weird things happen in the Gulf and while it'd be a longshot I wouldn't at all rule out a Cat 5 either, stranger things have happened.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2785 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:00 pm

a 965.9 mb with 22 kt winds ..
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2786 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:00 pm

RL3AO ,you think Beven could have waited for the pass to then release the 10 PM CDT advisory?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2787 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:01 pm

if this storm landfalls as a cat 3 we should see the first usage of the extreme wind warning for areas expecting 100 knot winds.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2788 Postby SouthDadeFish » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:01 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Anyone know why they keep doing all the loopy loops in the eye each pass from the AF plane ?


Likely trying to find the true center of circulation for accurate center fix position and central pressure estimate.
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#2789 Postby Soonercane » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:02 pm

psyclone wrote:if this storm landfalls as a cat 3 we should see the first usage of the extreme wind warning for areas expecting 100 knot winds.


I was thinking so too earlier but remember it was issued for Cape Canaveral when the western eyewall of Matthew brushed it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_wind_warning
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2790 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:03 pm

It's literally improving by the minute.

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The next 3 to 6 hours will decide a cat 3 vs a cat 4+ at landfall.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2791 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:03 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Anyone know why they keep doing all the loopy loops in the eye each pass from the AF plane ?


Likely trying to find the true center of circulation for accurate center fix position and central pressure estimate.


its seems a little odd all of a sudden with this system. why even worry about a half mile difference?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2792 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:04 pm

Soonercane wrote:I thought the NHC mentioned dry air intrusion/weakening? The pressure is down but that could be temporary right? Trying to make up mind whether to stay or leave (in Victoria on central TX coast).


My goodness Sooner, I would go. Even if it doesn't hit you directly, chances are you are going to be without power if you are on the coast, and possibly for an extended period of time. Not even to mention the rainfall you are more than likely going to receive. I've lived for 10 days with no power after a cane before, trust me...it is terrible.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2793 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:04 pm

Soonercane wrote:I thought the NHC mentioned dry air intrusion/weakening? The pressure is down but that could be temporary right? Trying to make up mind whether to stay or leave (in Victoria on central TX coast).

Leave. You don't want to be anywhere near this thing.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2794 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:04 pm

Soonercane wrote:
psyclone wrote:if this storm landfalls as a cat 3 we should see the first usage of the extreme wind warning for areas expecting 100 knot winds.


I was thinking so too earlier but remember it was issued for Cape Canaveral when the western eyewall of Matthew brushed it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_wind_warning


great catch I did not know that. the eventual issuance of the warning this time will be something to watch for. that's the most terrifying warning I can think of. you know it's going down.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2795 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:04 pm

cycloneye wrote: RL3AO ,you think Beven could have waited for the pass to then release the 10 PM CDT advisory?


I don't think there is enough data now to up intensity or the forecast, but a special advisory later tonight wouldn't shock me if it continues what it started in the last hour.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2796 Postby Exalt » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:04 pm

RL3AO wrote:It's literally improving by the minute.



The next 3 to 6 hours will decide a cat 3 vs a cat 4+ at landfall.


If it keeps going at this rate, I don't think that battle even exists.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2797 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:05 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2798 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:05 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Anyone know why they keep doing all the loopy loops in the eye each pass from the AF plane ?


I think they drop down closer to the surface to drop the dropsonde since the eye is only 15 miles in diameter.
Is my guess.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2799 Postby AubreyStorm » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:05 pm

Vía Levi Cowan

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2800 Postby dukeblue219 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:06 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
SouthDadeFish wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Anyone know why they keep doing all the loopy loops in the eye each pass from the AF plane ?


Likely trying to find the true center of circulation for accurate center fix position and central pressure estimate.


its seems a little odd all of a sudden with this system. why even worry about a half mile difference?


They could be experimenting with any number of measurements, cameras, navigation systems, or whatnot. It might be as simple as trying to gather more sensory data on eye structure during intensification. Hopefully we'll get a mention of their pattern at some point from NHC.
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