ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2921 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:19 pm

Just looked at the Recon thread and saw that there are now 2 planes in there, one is about to hit the Northern part of the CoC and the other is on the outside edge of the NW quadrant, so we should start seeing a lot more information. My question any chance these planes can fly into one of the airports (that has military hangars) and refuel there?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2922 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:20 pm

tolakram wrote:
BZSTORM wrote:
HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?

it seems the 11pm update has been Removed the url no longer works so the data must be suspect.


It's there, 10PM central (11pm eastern)

10:00 PM CDT Thu Aug 24
Location: 25.2°N 94.6°W
Moving: NW at 10 mph
Min pressure: 973 mb
Max sustained: 85 mph


They had another one come out at 11 pm cdt, that had the pressure down to 971.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2923 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:20 pm

1900hurricane wrote:I predict a marked pressure drop for the next center fix.


Yea, the IR presentation looks darn good at the moment.

https://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-abi?satellite=GOESEastconusband14&lat=25&lon=-94&width=1000&height=800&zoom=1&type=Animation&numframes=20&quality=92&palette=ir4.pal
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2924 Postby ColdMiser123 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:20 pm

98 KT flight level wind found.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2925 Postby AubreyStorm » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:21 pm

Vía Twitter

Two simultaneous Hurricane Hunter missions into #Harvey right now. NOAA2 in northern eyewall reporting 98kt flight level winds. Big jump.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2926 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:21 pm

tolakram wrote:
BZSTORM wrote:
HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?

it seems the 11pm update has been Removed the url no longer works so the data must be suspect.


It's there, 10PM central (11pm eastern)

10:00 PM CDT Thu Aug 24
Location: 25.2°N 94.6°W
Moving: NW at 10 mph
Min pressure: 973 mb
Max sustained: 85 mph


There was a 11pm CDT update:
http://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/raw/wt/w ... cu.at4.txt
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2927 Postby OntarioEggplant » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:21 pm

Well I see why they pulled the 11 PM update. Massive increase in FL winds per NOAA
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2928 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:22 pm

I also see the 12am (EST) "UPDATE" as removed.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2929 Postby Nederlander » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:22 pm

wkwally wrote:Been a lot of panic buying here in Humble TX, Gas has been drained. Just a little breezy right now but I am sure that will change tomorrow.


No need to panic, just be prepared. Humble will see some heavy rain over the next few days, but no significant wind threat just yet, though that is subject to change. Follow NHC and local guidance over the weekend.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2930 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:23 pm

AubreyStorm wrote:Vía Twitter

Two simultaneous Hurricane Hunter missions into #Harvey right now. NOAA2 in northern eyewall reporting 98kt flight level winds. Big jump.

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So would you say that supports 100 MPH?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2931 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:23 pm

1900hurricane wrote:Instantaneous DTs are clearly on the upswing.

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If the eye clears out there with the CDO remaining the same, that would be T6.0?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2932 Postby MaineWeatherNut » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:23 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:98 KT flight level wind found.


That was from a NOAA plane which flies higher up so the winds are going to be higher then what the AF planes get.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2933 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:24 pm

Um 98 fl level is getting up there quickly..compared to recent prior data..

And yes I would say 100mph IMO
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2934 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:24 pm

they will do a blend of SFMR and flight level. like go with 95 MPH

also likely some higher winds in the NE Eyewall. few more passes may push it up to 100 to 105
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2935 Postby BZSTORM » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:25 pm

tolakram wrote:
BZSTORM wrote:
HurricaneRyan wrote:Why are the windspeeds still at 85 mph?

it seems the 11pm update has been Removed the url no longer works so the data must be suspect.


It's there, 10PM central (11pm eastern)

10:00 PM CDT Thu Aug 24
Location: 25.2°N 94.6°W
Moving: NW at 10 mph
Min pressure: 973 mb
Max sustained: 85 mph

I was referring the the Hurricane Harvey Update Statement 11pm CDT I posted on prev page where pressure was 971mb but winds still 85mb I had the page still open when I copied and pasted but when I went back to NHC home page the update was gone and the link had error. I would delete that post if I know how, as there must have been something wrong with the data for them to remove it. can an admin please remove that post for me. As its would be wrong data to be left in the archive in the future. thanks
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2936 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:26 pm

tolakram wrote:
Yea, the IR presentation looks darn good at the moment.




Probably explains the Flight Level wind jump...Pressure drops should follow...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2937 Postby ColdMiser123 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:27 pm

MaineWeatherNut wrote:
ColdMiser123 wrote:98 KT flight level wind found.


That was from a NOAA plane which flies higher up so the winds are going to be higher then what the AF planes get.


The AF307 was flying at 696 mb during its final pass, while the NOAA flight that just recorded the 98 KT flight level wind was actually flying closer to 750 mb.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2938 Postby wkwally » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:28 pm

No need to panic, just be prepared. Humble will see some heavy rain over the next few days, but no significant wind threat just yet, though that is subject to change. Follow NHC and local guidance over the weekend.


I fully agree but it seems that up until tonight many of the local news stations seem to have some in a little of a panic. The 10PM news however the met was more calming.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2939 Postby wkwally » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:30 pm

By the way I do have a question for the mets out there what does the tornado threat look like for the Houston area during this event?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2940 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:30 pm

Hurricane Harvey looks to be a huge rain event.
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