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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3601 Postby Blown Away » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:26 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
The TVCN consensus model the NHC likes to stay close to is almost on top of the NHC forecast track though. Does that mean very little change will be made at the 11pm update?
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Not seeing any reason the NHC would make any significant track changes, maybe adjust a bit to the S & W at days 4/5...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3602 Postby got ants? » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:38 pm

Can someone post the current predicted path, in regards to (and showing) the nebert box?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3604 Postby AdamFirst » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:42 pm

Looking out for our friends in the Antilles...Gustywind, msbee and others...I believe we have members in the Turks and Caicos as well. Hoping that their situations won't be as dire as some of the models are predicting.
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ATL: IRMA - Models

#3605 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:43 pm

got ants? wrote:Can someone post the current predicted path, in regards to (and showing) the nebert box?


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This map includes the 11pm NHC track update. Its the red line


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3606 Postby quaqualita » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:51 pm

AdamFirst wrote:Looking out for our friends in the Antilles...Gustywind, msbee and others...I believe we have members in the Turks and Caicos as well. Hoping that their situations won't be as dire as some of the models are predicting.


Thank you! Keeping a close eye on Irma, I'm located at the North Coast of the Dominican Republic. Love this forum!
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3607 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:51 pm

Curious as to what the upcoming GFS model shows, and of course the late night Euro
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3608 Postby otowntiger » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:54 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
got ants? wrote:Can someone post the current predicted path, in regards to (and showing) the nebert box?


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This map includes the 11pm NHC track update. Its the red line


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All this talk of the south and west shifts- I don't see it. I feel like I must have missed an interim where the models were much more east than they are now? The GFS and European have not shifted much that I can see. I guess I need to have it pointed out to me.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3609 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:58 pm

otowntiger wrote:All this talk of the south and west shifts- I don't see it. I feel like I must have missed an interim where the models were much more east than they are now? The GFS and European have not shifted much that I can see. I guess I need to have it pointed out to me.

GFS and others went for an OTS recurve not to long ago, then shifted to New York/New England. ECMWF went from Key West to OTS but it's uncertain for them, yet for the most part models have shifted SW.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3610 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:59 pm

otowntiger wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:
got ants? wrote:Can someone post the current predicted path, in regards to (and showing) the nebert box?


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This map includes the 11pm NHC track update. Its the red line


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All this talk of the south and west shifts- I don't see it. I feel like I must have missed an interim where the models were much more east than they are now? The GFS and European have not shifted much that I can see. I guess I need to have it pointed out to me.

http://flhurricane.com/modelanimator.ph ... 7&title=11 Press play on the bottom and that'll help you see it. Things were looking like Nova Scotia for a bit until today.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3611 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:01 pm

AdamFirst wrote:
gatorcane wrote:The grey lines, i.e..the GFS ensembles have been shifting south every run since 00Z today. I was comparing the 00Z to the 18Z. Even less than 120 hours, big difference.


Yep. All of the ensembles are to the right (or west) of the 18z operational run.

Note the trends, folks...


The other right? :)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3612 Postby Ken711 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:01 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Curious as to what the upcoming GFS model shows, and of course the late night Euro


I have a feeling a shift West on both.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3613 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:02 pm

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
otowntiger wrote:All this talk of the south and west shifts- I don't see it. I feel like I must have missed an interim where the models were much more east than they are now? The GFS and European have not shifted much that I can see. I guess I need to have it pointed out to me.

GFS and others went for an OTS recurve not to long ago, then shifted to New York/New England. ECMWF went from Key West to OTS but it's uncertain for them, yet for the most part models have shifted SW.

That OTS scenario was a special occasion lol. If that run played out then the recurve would be a miracle. Talk about threading needles.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3614 Postby Langinbang187 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:04 pm



A storm I'll never forget. Literally destroyed my entire town up in Canada. Dropped an insane amount of rain in a short period of time.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3615 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:06 pm

NAM High Resolution to 60 hours shows that trough coming down from Canada. It looks massive. I still think it will be the high that follows it and the relative speed of Irma as to what happens. But here comes the trough into the North Central US

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0&ypos=300
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3616 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:06 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:
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This map includes the 11pm NHC track update. Its the red line


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All this talk of the south and west shifts- I don't see it. I feel like I must have missed an interim where the models were much more east than they are now? The GFS and European have not shifted much that I can see. I guess I need to have it pointed out to me.

http://flhurricane.com/modelanimator.ph ... 7&title=11 Press play on the bottom and that'll help you see it. Things were looking like Nova Scotia for a bit until today.


A good way to see that on those types of animations is to set it to Swing mode (from loop) then hit play a few times toward the end of the animation (it because super obvious if you let it swing back and forth toward the end)
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3617 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:20 pm

NAM is throwing in some complications:

32km - Trough comes down but is way more narrow than the 3km high res satellite depiction. I think what it might be is that piece of energy that becomes the cutoff low later on. Major front across the Eastern US between the Atlantic High and trough coming down. A surface low forms in West Virginia and moves up the front. 1009mb low is spinning in the BoC.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0&ypos=100

NAM 12km is similar through 3.5 days.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... s=0&ypos=0
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3618 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:25 pm

Trend over time from http://flhurricane.com/modelanimator.ph ... 7&title=11

Hebert Box is the darker dashed square around the Northeast Caribbean islands.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3619 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:29 pm

GFS is running
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#3620 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:35 pm

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