ATL: IRMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4541 Postby hohnywx » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:23 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4542 Postby znel52 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:23 pm

RL3AO wrote:Holy crap...

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which mb level is surface? i always forget lol
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4543 Postby dukeblue219 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:24 pm

RL3AO wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:Based on the past two recon passes, Irma may be back to being closer to a typical pressure/wind relationship. While still a solid category 5, I'm not seeing anything close to 160 kt anymore.


Yep. Looking more like a "regular" cat 5. Maybe even a cat 4 by morning. Let's see how efficient the EWRC is.


Latest dropsonde transmitted at 7:01pm EDT from NE eyewall:
937mb (Surface) Unavailable
934mb 95° (from the E) 167 knots (192 mph)
932mb 95° (from the E) 173 knots (199 mph)
927mb 100° (from the E) 154 knots (177 mph)
925mb 100° (from the E) 151 knots (174 mph)
918mb 100° (from the E) 173 knots (199 mph)
915mb 100° (from the E) 196 knots (226 mph)

There's no surface measurement but that 192mph is not far off the surface at all (3 mb).
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4544 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:24 pm

1900hurricane wrote:Based on the past two recon passes, Irma may be back to being closer to a typical pressure/wind relationship. While still a solid category 5, I'm not seeing anything close to 160 kt anymore.

Air force plane still has 154 kt SFMR. Irma loves to make me look silly apparently.

*EDIT: plus that ridiculous dropsonde. 00Z best track update will probably only drop down to 155 kt if at all.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4545 Postby KBBOCA » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:24 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4546 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:25 pm

Did the dropsonde crashed before it reach the surface? Maybe Irma is still a 160kt storm after all.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4547 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:25 pm

znel52 wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Holy crap...

https://i.imgur.com/lhP5Lrf.png



which mb level is surface? i always forget lol


937 according to the upper table.

That means 167 kts at 80 ft above ground
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4548 Postby meriland29 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:27 pm

So recon found max winds at around 170, which is 15mph less than previous, land interaction?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4549 Postby znel52 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:28 pm

meriland29 wrote:So recon found max winds at around 170, which is 15mph less than previous, land interaction?


They found 161kt with SFMR. Still the same intensity..
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4550 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:29 pm

znel52 wrote:
meriland29 wrote:So recon found max winds at around 170, which is 15mph less than previous, land interaction?


They found 161kt with SFMR. Still the same intensity..

Land interaction?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4551 Postby drezee » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:29 pm

That is the strongest drop I can remember since Wilma. Wilma had one that was about the same. I will find it.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4552 Postby KBBOCA » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:30 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4553 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:30 pm

znel52 wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Holy crap...

Image



which mb level is surface? i always forget lol

Af planes always find different info than noaa...that's why I've been waiting for af
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4554 Postby Exalt » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:30 pm

meriland29 wrote:So recon found max winds at around 170, which is 15mph less than previous, land interaction?


EWRC, but the most recent dropsonde says there was no drop..
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4555 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:30 pm

RL3AO wrote:Holy crap...

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that is very very near the surface ... ummmm... would they use that ?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4556 Postby Javlin » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:31 pm




That would be insane but believable by the presentation Irma has been doing all day.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4557 Postby ronyan » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:32 pm

Shouldn't surface level be 920 ish
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4558 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:32 pm

AF center pass - 913.1mb extrapolated

SE quad:
138 kt FL
153 kt SFMR flagged and unflagged (but with very high rain rate)
133 kt SFMR def uncontaminated
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4559 Postby Exalt » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:32 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Holy crap...

Image


that is very very near the surface ... ummmm... would they use that ?


They should.. its verifiable.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4560 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:33 pm

I think they should use it, probably wouldn't take but a few minutes for those winds to drop down to surface, but just my opinion.
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