ATL: IRMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Irma: Observations,Web Cams,Local NWS Statements (NE Caribbean/Bahamas/Florida/SC/NC)

#4561 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:33 pm

This post may be my last one for hopefully only some days as already some bands that are ahead of powerful hurricane Irma are moving thru the island and those already have caused power outages in parts of Puerto Rico.I know when the power goes,it will take many days to restore.Hopefully the worse part of Irma stays in the ocean but anyway we will get plenty of Tropical Storm force winds and hurricanre force winds sustained and in gusts.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4562 Postby Falling Soil » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:33 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
Javlin wrote:"CDG ring in the Atlantic" What is a CDG ring ?nothing pops up on google.

It's actually never been observed in the Atlantic basin. Gilbert and Wilma came close but never sustained a symmetrical CDG ring with WMG eye.


Hi, to what imagery are you referring to with the CDG? Is it AVN, rainbow, other? Oh, and wouldn't mind a WMG definition please..

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4563 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:33 pm

here i got hurr net their active we here report from islands http://hwn.org/tools/streaming-audio.html ham operate
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4564 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:34 pm

ALso its been wobbling a little more to the West.. making PR looking not so good everytime it does that.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4565 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:34 pm

I'd wait till they drop another one and see if they find those winds again.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4566 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:34 pm

ronyan wrote:Shouldn't surface level be 920 ish


Not in the eyewall. Recon is finding the highest SFMR winds in areas with estimated pressures of 930s to 940s.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4567 Postby Callista » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:34 pm

I have to say... Irma is beautiful. Dangerous, deadly, and beautiful, like a tiger on the hunt.

Any chances maybe Harvey used up a bit of the energy and Irma won't get as much as she normally would if Harvey hadn't been there already? Or are they too far separated?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4568 Postby Exalt » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:35 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Holy crap...

Image


that is very very near the surface ... ummmm... would they use that ?


The 192mph reading at 934 should verify.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4569 Postby Macrocane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:35 pm

Falling Soil wrote: [

Hi, to what imagery are you referring to with the CDG? Is it AVN, rainbow, other? Oh, and wouldn't mind a WMG definition please..

THANKS!!


CDG refers to Dvorak imagery.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4570 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:35 pm

Finding around 175mph winds in southeast eyewall.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4571 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:35 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Holy crap...

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that is very very near the surface ... ummmm... would they use that ?

They wouldn't use the 167 kt since it is an instantaneous value, but there is a conversion factor sometimes used for the boundary layer mean winds, although I can't remember what it is off the top of my head.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4572 Postby Langinbang187 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:36 pm

We're about to officially have the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic folks.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4573 Postby Exalt » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:36 pm

Callista wrote:I have to say... Irma is beautiful. Dangerous, deadly, and beautiful, like a tiger on the hunt.

Any chances maybe Harvey used up a bit of the energy and Irma won't get as much as she normally would if Harvey hadn't been there already? Or are they too far separated?


Harvey was in the Gulf of Mexico and went through the south Central Caribbean and Bay of Campeche. Harvey's path couldnt be any further from Irma's unless she doesn't turn north.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4575 Postby Exalt » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:37 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:Finding around 175mph winds in southeast eyewall.


Must still be intensifying, SE quad's been the weakest of all.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4576 Postby Exalt » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:38 pm

1900hurricane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Holy crap...

[image removed]


that is very very near the surface ... ummmm... would they use that ?

They wouldn't use the 167 kt since it is an instantaneous value, but there is a conversion factor sometimes used for the boundary layer mean winds, although I can't remember what it is off the top of my head.


I think we may have a tie with Allen very soon at least then.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4577 Postby Blizzard96x » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:39 pm

Langinbang187 wrote:We're about to officially have the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic folks.


Don't think so, maybe we will tie Allen though before EWRC...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4578 Postby drezee » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:39 pm

drezee wrote:That is the strongest drop I can remember since Wilma. Wilma had one that was about the same. I will find it.

From WIlma discussion:

AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE MEASURED 168 KNOTS AT 700 MB
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4579 Postby Langinbang187 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:39 pm

Blizzard96x wrote:
Langinbang187 wrote:We're about to officially have the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic folks.


Don't think so, maybe we will tie Allen though before EWRC...


Pressure continuing to drop, winds rising in other quads. A tie at the least, I believe 195 MPH is very attainable however.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4580 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:39 pm

I know that they're sampling different parts of the storm at different times, but the center data from the Air Force and NOAA seem to always be different. I wonder why.
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