ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[artist]

All of these "They should have evacuated Houston comments" need to stop. It is impossible to do that and second of all, there was no way to tell where the rain would be and who would be hardest hit. People who live near bayous and creeks and flood prone areas know they live there and they should have been prepared.

You don't issue mandatory evacuations for 6+ million people due to a flood. A major hurricane? Yes, you definitely issue them.

Are you kidding me? They have been pretty accurate as far as forecasting the rainfall for 3-5 days now... People should have left.

And it IS associated with a hurricane!

[artist]

Heard the mayor of Houston is opening the convention center as an emergency shelter. This is starting to remind me of New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina with the amount of flooding in the downtown area.

I thought the same thing. I am also concerned with what is headed into that area.

[jasons2k]

As I type, we are under a rain band with torrential downpours in it. Just coming down. I fear tonight might be worse than this. Most school districts are closed for the week. I assume UH, Rice, TSU, HCC and Lone Star will follow suit. I hope the situation will improve, but unfortunately we are in the 6th inning of a 9 inning game. We are ok so far in our subdivision in Atascocita.

And this game may have extra innings...yeah i'm concerned tonight will be just a repeat of last night, but with it on top of what we got, the flooding just gets out of control.

[RL3AO]

THE THREAT OF FLASH FLOODING IS INCREASING ACROSS SOUTHERN LA AS
SOILS SATURATE, WHILE SIGNIFICANT TO CATASTROPHIC FLASH FLOODING
CONTINUES ACROSS PORTIONS OF SOUTHEAST TX, INCLUDING THE HOUSTON
METROPOLITAN AREA. THE AVERAGE RAINFALL WITHIN THE HARRIS COUNTY
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT NETWORK HAS EXCEEDED THAT OF TROPICAL STORM
ALLISON (2001) IN ALMOST HALF OF THE TIME (2-3 VERSUS 5 DAYS).
HISTORIC FLOODING IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE IN THE HOUSTON
METROPOLITAN AREA THROUGH THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/metwatch/metwatch_mpd_multi.php?md=0743&yr=2017

[jasons2k]

The other thing about this, for those reading from other places, is the relentless string of tornado warnings starts to wear on you. One night of that is enough. But it just keeps going and going.

[stephen23]

This could go from bad to catastrophic. With the models showing this to make it back to cat 1 before coming into Houston later this week. Houston can't made to surge right now or the increased rainfall with a mote intense storm. Then with the models showing this to come up to the north Texas area we can't handle the rain either. Our lakes are full. Our rivers are already running full. It won't take much rain before the BRA has to call for release of water on all lakes on the Brazos river chain. Guess where that water goes to? The Houston area

[NC George]

As I type, we are under a rain band with torrential downpours in it. Just coming down. I fear tonight might be worse than this. Most school districts are closed for the week. I assume UH, Rice, TSU, HCC and Lone Star will follow suit. I hope the situation will improve, but unfortunately we are in the 6th inning of a 9 inning game. We are ok so far in our subdivision in Atascocita.

Sadly, based on my experiences with Hurricane Floyd and flooding, you're in the 2nd inning.

[tarheelprogrammer]

Models are trending toward some redevelopment, and then a landfall near Houston. God help that area of the country. Continuing to pray for you all.

[jasons2k]

Just got a text from Southerngale - she is OK.

[KBBOCA]

As I type, we are under a rain band with torrential downpours in it. Just coming down. I fear tonight might be worse than this. Most school districts are closed for the week. I assume UH, Rice, TSU, HCC and Lone Star will follow suit. I hope the situation will improve, but unfortunately we are in the 6th inning of a 9 inning game. We are ok so far in our subdivision in Atascocita.

And this game may have extra innings...yeah i'm concerned tonight will be just a repeat of last night, but with it on top of what we got, the flooding just gets out of control.

Will be thinking of and praying for all of you in SE Texas tonight, for safety and grace to endure this LONG & horrific ordeal. Having been in a few hurricanes & severe tropical rain events, I know even one night of non-stop intense rain can seem like forever. I can't imagine what all y'all are facing, really, but all the Texans I know are REALLY strong folks with great senses of humor. Stay strong and thanks for keeping us far away posted with your news. We care!

[PTrackerLA]

Flood risk expanding into Louisiana big time today. 25"+ forecast in SW LA as well as additional in Houston. Tornado warnings flying left and right around Lafayette currently. Did not expect the weather to get this bad today. I'm just stunned.

[artist]

Just got a text from Southerngale - she is OK.

Thank you, Jason's. Hope we hear from others soon.

[Aric Dunn]

Moving towards the water a little quicker per satellite

[ScottNAtlanta]

This could go from bad to catastrophic. With the models showing this to make it back to cat 1 before coming into Houston later this week. Houston can't made to surge right now or the increased rainfall with a mote intense storm. Then with the models showing this to come up to the north Texas area we can't handle the rain either. Our lakes are full. Our rivers are already running full. It won't take much rain before the BRA has to call for release of water on all lakes on the Brazos river chain. Guess where that water goes to? The Houston area

On top of that, many of those dams have been in desperate need of repair. Some scored very badly (the article is from 2013 but only a few have just started to be addressed)

https://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/2013/ ... condition/

[artist]

Additional cities calling for help-

Galveston County and several cities are requesting assistance from experienced boaters willing to help with the large number of high water rescues waiting to be made across the area.

Please contact these departments directly if you can help:

Galveston County Sheriff's Office:

If you own a flat bottom boat and are available we need your help assisting with rescues. We are setting up a staging area at the Gulf Greyhound Park in La Marque. Galveston County sheriff's deputies will be dispatching volunteers out to where they need to be. Please make sure you have plenty of life vests and fuel since resources at this time are unavailable. Please call Brittany at 409-978-0242 if you're able to help and comment below with any other questions, we are monitoring Facebook constantly. Please share with anyone you know with a flat bottom boat.

League City Police Department:

We are looking for people with flat bottom or low water boats to assist with rescue and evacuation. Please call 281-554-1075 if you can be mobile with your boat and are experienced in operation of the boat.

Please email kelly.williamson@leaguecity.com with name, phone number, location of boat, length and style of boat.

Dickinson Police Department:

To people in the Dickinson area: if you have a boat and would be willing to help the police department rescue people from their flooded homes, please call 281-337-4700.

Santa Fe Police Department:

Volunteers with John boats or air boats are asked to call 409-925-2000 if they're available to help.

This article will be updated with additional calls for help if they are made.

From galvnews.com

[Tireman4]

Heard from Katdaddy. He is ok. I have not heard from Hurrakan Sandy, but i think he is at work

[sphelps8681]

Doesn't Rock live in Kema or am I mistaken? Hope he is ok.

[stephen23]

Moving towards the water a little quicker per satellite

Not good

[Kingarabian]

All of these "They should have evacuated Houston comments" need to stop. It is impossible to do that and second of all, there was no way to tell where the rain would be and who would be hardest hit. People who live near bayous and creeks and flood prone areas know they live there and they should have been prepared.

You don't issue mandatory evacuations for 6+ million people due to a flood. A major hurricane? Yes, you definitely issue them.

Are you kidding me? They have been pretty accurate as far as forecasting the rainfall for 3-5 days now... People should have left.

And it IS associated with a hurricane!

We talked about it on here before Harvey made landfall that everyone from Brownsville to Galveston should be prepared for the worst. But the others are right, as there is no way you can evacuate that many people. I mean if the residents of Corpus Christie did not evacuate and they were within a handful of miles away from the eye wall, how can we expect someone that is 5 hours away to evacuate?

[Tireman4]

Doesn't Rock live in Kema or am I mistaken? Hope he is ok.

He does. He used to live in Pearland.