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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6241 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:57 pm

Finally reporting on TWC about releasing the water from the reservoirs and how it will flood surrounding neighborhoods. What a nightmare, the entire last 48 hours have been a nightmare. I feel for all the folks.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6242 Postby meriland29 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:58 pm

Why release those waters if it will cause much more damage?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6243 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:00 pm

Thus far, the new developing band seems to be of a different character from last night, as cloud tops are still rather warm with it. In spite of this, reflectivity and KDP is rather high, meaning the rainfall processes have to be hyper-efficient.
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#6244 Postby sphelps8681 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:00 pm

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Not sure if I did this correctly but this is an image of the Walmart in Kemah. Hope your ok Rock!!!!
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6245 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:00 pm

meriland29 wrote:Why release those waters if it will cause much more damage?

The alternative may be worse...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6246 Postby aperson » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:00 pm

My family is in the zone of the reservoir release and they moved to higher ground this morning. I am glad they are doing a controlled release, an overflow would be much much more catastrophic than just inundating their relatively small region.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6247 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:00 pm

meriland29 wrote:Why release those waters if it will cause much more damage?


If a reservoir gets too full and overtops an embankment it can cause a catastrophic failure.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6248 Postby southerngale » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:00 pm

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southerngale wrote:Getting hammered here (just west of Beaumont) with a heavy band. Streets are already flooded. Water will be in homes soon, if not already. The entrance to my sub-division is flooded and has been rising all day as is much of the highway if you left Pinewood.

Do you have a safe way to get out if you need it?

There's only one way in and out of Pinewood. It's still passable on one side (not as deep), but rising.
A lot of people out here have boats, so that's an option.
I don't plan on leaving, however. My house is ok for now.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6249 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:01 pm

meriland29 wrote:
Hurricane Andrew wrote:Extremely heavy rain rates headed back toward Houston per radar, roughly 3-5" per hour.

out of curiousity, anyone know what the max '' per hour bands were last night in houston?

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 6-8" per hour in the core of the band.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6250 Postby Nimbus » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:01 pm

artist wrote:
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artist wrote:They are going to release water from the Addicks and Barker? dam.


Yes, they reported that earlier on a news conference. Not sure when they are going to do it, or if they already have, but they were letting local residents who would be affected, in order for them to evacuate.

According to the authority they are talking to on Kprc tonight they will start releasing tonight.

It will not reach Katy.


Looks like Buffalo Bayou will be flooded with a controlled release, homes flooded as far east as the Beltway? Hope the supports on the beltway overpass don't get washed out.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6251 Postby stephen23 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:02 pm

meriland29 wrote:Why release those waters if it will cause much more damage?

If they do not release the water they have to worry about Dam failure. That would put all that water into Houston Metro. Think Katrina
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6252 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:03 pm

meriland29 wrote:Why release those waters if it will cause much more damage?


Because if those reservoirs breach the levees/ it will be MUCH MUCH worse
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6253 Postby southerngale » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:03 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:
southerngale wrote:Getting hammered here (just west of Beaumont) with a heavy band. Streets are already flooded. Water will be in homes soon, if not already. The entrance to my sub-division is flooded and has been rising all day as is much of the highway if you left Pinewood.


Sorry to hear that. We are also getting a lot here in Lumberton. What are your thoughts for our area in the coming days? Stay safe!!

Y'all ok up there?
I don't know. I have given up trying to figure it out.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6254 Postby artist » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:03 pm

jasons wrote:
artist wrote:
jasons wrote:I have a roof leak over my garage


Oh, gee. Do you have a tarp?

Yeah but I can't put it up now. Fortunately, I found the spot and was able to cut my sheet rock away and put a bucket under it. So at least for now, it's contained.

Glad you found it and can get that tarp up later.

One thing after Frances we learned is to have a huge tarp on hand after seeing all the blue roofs surrounding our area.
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#6255 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:03 pm

meriland29 wrote:Why release those waters if it will cause much more damage?
Its controlled versus a dam break or over the top..i know it sounds harsh to release but its the best option..lot's of tough decisions and very tough news the next few days
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6256 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:05 pm

stephen23 wrote:
meriland29 wrote:Why release those waters if it will cause much more damage?

If they do not release the water they have to worry about Dam failure. That would put all that water into Houston Metro. Think Katrina


Exactly, so they have to make the decision to flood surrounding neighborhoods, or Houston Metro... Sad decisions like this have to be made.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6257 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:06 pm

I think we answered that question. :D
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6258 Postby southerngale » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:06 pm

Steve wrote:
southerngale wrote:Getting hammered here (just west of Beaumont) with a heavy band. Streets are already flooded. Water will be in homes soon, if not already. The entrance to my sub-division is flooded and has been rising all day as is much of the highway if you left Pinewood.


That line looks like a broken up feeder line of mini-supercells. Be careful SG. This looks bad particularly if it stays over the same general areas. Ouch. Maybe Vidor, Orange, Vinton as well. Y'all be careful at the border.

Thanks. It's pouring and no signs of letting up anytime soon. More developing off the coast as well... I don't even know what to think anymore.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6259 Postby sphelps8681 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:08 pm

southerngale wrote:
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southerngale wrote:Getting hammered here (just west of Beaumont) with a heavy band. Streets are already flooded. Water will be in homes soon, if not already. The entrance to my sub-division is flooded and has been rising all day as is much of the highway if you left Pinewood.


Sorry to hear that. We are also getting a lot here in Lumberton. What are your thoughts for our area in the coming days? Stay safe!!

Y'all ok up there?
I don't know. I have given up trying to figure it out.


We are good. Got all the supplies and ready for what ever happens. The streets are flooding in Lumberton and school was cancelled for tomorrow. Mikes employer also cancelled Monday for him. Just hanging in there. I know your subdivision floods on a dime. I sent you a PM.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6260 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:10 pm

southerngale wrote:
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southerngale wrote:Getting hammered here (just west of Beaumont) with a heavy band. Streets are already flooded. Water will be in homes soon, if not already. The entrance to my sub-division is flooded and has been rising all day as is much of the highway if you left Pinewood.

Do you have a safe way to get out if you need it?

There's only one way in and out of Pinewood. It's still passable on one side (not as deep), but rising.
A lot of people out here have boats, so that's an option.
I don't plan on leaving, however. My house is ok for now.

Just be careful, yeah? Keep checking in with us every so often.
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