ATL: IRMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[eastcoastFL]

Did any of the islands that Irma made landfall/pass closed to report 160-185mph winds? Or did they lack the needed instruments to do so?

A couple got in the high 150s before the instruments broke.

[T-man]

This is probably a stupid question and I'm sure I already know the answer but here it goes. My parents live in Boca Raton and have boarded up all their 2nd Floor windows and all first floor east facing windows, however they do not have any protection for 6 sets of sliding glass doors in the back of the house which faces southeast...they plan to stay in the house for the storm...does anyone see any possible way that they will be safe in the house?

If any of the glass doors break, it could spell disaster. Lots of homes lost roofs when the garage doors failed, and their are some similarities, don't you think?

[Sciencerocks]

000
URNT15 KNHC 080226
AF309 1811A IRMA HDOB 35 20170908
021630 2158N 07304W 6964 03065 9973 +075 +023 053080 080 058 009 00
021700 2157N 07303W 6965 03058 9958 +082 +027 053079 080 060 010 00
021730 2156N 07302W 6966 03051 9954 +081 +027 055079 080 060 010 03
021800 2155N 07301W 6967 03044 9953 +077 +027 057082 083 059 013 00
021830 2154N 07300W 6966 03038 9944 +077 +024 058084 085 063 011 03
021900 2153N 07258W 6966 03032 9939 +075 +024 057086 086 065 010 00
021930 2152N 07257W 6963 03026 9930 +075 +029 057090 094 067 012 00
022000 2151N 07256W 6965 03016 9926 +071 +030 060092 094 066 011 00
022030 2150N 07255W 6966 03009 9915 +073 +025 060095 097 072 007 00
022100 2149N 07254W 6963 03004 9896 +081 +027 060098 099 074 008 00
022130 2148N 07253W 6967 02990 9883 +085 +026 061100 101 074 009 00
022200 2147N 07252W 6966 02983 9877 +081 +027 059103 104 080 010 00
022230 2146N 07251W 6966 02971 9851 +093 +027 059103 105 080 009 00
022300 2145N 07250W 6966 02961 9836 +096 +026 059108 110 081 007 00
022330 2144N 07249W 6969 02947 9838 +082 +028 060111 112 087 011 00
022400 2143N 07248W 6962 02942 9820 +084 +037 059117 118 091 008 00
022430 2142N 07247W 6965 02920 9795 +089 +034 059121 122 091 011 00
022500 2141N 07246W 6961 02906 9782 +082 +038 061119 121 097 010 00
022530 2141N 07245W 6967 02883 9769 +078 +035 061122 125 100 014 00
022600 2140N 07244W 6961 02870 9747 +079 +040 061127 129 103 017 00
$$
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[tropicwatch]

Did any of the islands that Irma made landfall/pass closed to report 160-185mph winds? Or did they lack the needed instruments to do so?

Saw 155 on Barbuda before the instrument failed.

[lisa0825]

Any word from ms bee yet?

[otowntiger]

I think this will ramp up significantly just before landfall if the structure is there. My reasoning is the Barbado station showed a 3 or 4 degree drop in water temps from Irma. The gulf stream just off the tip of FL is warmer and will be replenishing the fuel source. Like I've said before, the atmospheric conditions that cause the turn north could also act as a strong outflow.

In fact, I think the record length that Irma has maintained this strength is due to it following a portion of the gulf stream.

I have a question as a resident of Orlando... If Irma landfalls as a Cat 5 w/ 185MPH winds and follows the forecast path, will Orlando see the same winds it saw with Charlie. For reference, the sustained winds in Orlando were 90 MPH.

I'm not quite sure you experienced 90 mph with charley in Orlando... probably more like 75 or high end tropical storm! If I recall the max dead center reading on the s side of town was 80!

For Irma if y'all get the dirty side it'll probably be 110ish, so just hope you only get the backside...

During Charley in '04 we got sustained winds of 85 and a peak gust of 105 recorded at Orlando International Airport. The big difference is those conditions only lasted about 30-40 minutes. We are forecasted to get about that maybe a little stronger w/ gusts to 110 but hurricane conditions for about 4-5 hours and a much more widespread area. Get ready.

[Bocadude85]

This is probably a stupid question and I'm sure I already know the answer but here it goes. My parents live in Boca Raton and have boarded up all their 2nd Floor windows and all first floor east facing windows, however they do not have any protection for 6 sets of sliding glass doors in the back of the house which faces southeast...they plan to stay in the house for the storm...does anyone see any possible way that they will be safe in the house?

If any of the glass doors break, it could spell disaster. Lots of homes lost roofs when the garage doors failed, and their are some similarities, don't you think?

I am very worried for them...they won't leave because they have a safe room in the interior of the home that they plan to go into if the weather gets to bad. We have impact windows at our place and insisted they come stay with us but they are refusing because the "storms are never as bad as forecasted"

[smithtim]

Most of the models predicted a pressure rise followed by another drop near Florida. I suppose this could be it. NHC expects a slow decline in strength, models and some enthusiastic forecaster who may also be a body builder expects irma to get back to 5 near landfall.

We shall see.

Yeah it's just wait & see!

I'm just not seeing any reason for this to decrease as it's passing over jet fuel, missed the island mountains... I just hope it doesn't come out of EWRC in a bad mood LOL. But seriously my point is a lot is still unknown scientifically about that process and while it usually does cause some short term decreases there have been many examples of the other direction- LET'S HOPE NOT!!!!!!

[KBBOCA]

Any word from ms bee yet?

I know she survived the storm safely, a few here have had contact with her. But conditions on the island sound beyond terrible

[lisa0825]

Any word from ms bee yet?

I know she survived the storm safely, a few here have had contact with her. But conditions on the island sound beyond terrible

Thank you. I tried searching the thread and checked the check-in thread, but didn't find anything. So glad to know she is safe.

[eastcoastFL]

10:25pm, still moving at 5-10mph, moved about another 8 miles or so, we are a bit north of Boca Raton nearing the WPB county line.

I wonder why they don't just make all sides of 95 and turnpike northbound for now? I know they have the plans in place.

[KBBOCA]

 https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/905982034409136128




NOTE: that is NOT Irma's current position in that graphic. She is now nearing the Bahamas...

[AutoPenalti]

10:25pm, still moving at 5-10mph, moved about another 8 miles or so, we are a bit north of Boca Raton nearing the WPB county line.

I wonder why they don't just make all sides of 95 and turnpike northbound for now? I know they have the plans in place.

I'm pretty sure they do but I think they are still trying to send tanker trucks south bound to Miami.

Afterwhich, I believe, they will reverse traffic patterns on the southbound lanes...

[SoupBone]

Don't know if this has been posted, but in addition to the potential loss of human life, stories like this tear at me as well.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/07/key-west-hemingway-house-hurricane-irma/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

I know it's a sensationalized story, sort of, but sad nonetheless.

"The legendary Ernest Hemingway home appears doomed ... an almost certain casualty of Hurricane Irma ... this according to local law enforcement.
The Key West home -- made of wood and built in the 1850's -- sits about 16 feet above sea level, which is the highest point on the island. Law enforcement tells us they're expecting at least 15 feet of water to flood the area ... so the outcome is bleak.
The Hemingway Home's manager, 72-year-old Jacqui Sands, has already said she's staying put to maintain the home and its 55 or so roaming cats. Jacqui and some staff are boarding up and bunkering down.
If Jacqui or her staff are injured, cops say they'll be left to fend for themselves, because hospitals, ERs, rescue crews and other government assistance will not be available."

[otowntiger]

I'm not quite sure you experienced 90 mph with charley in Orlando... probably more like 75 or high end tropical storm! If I recall the max dead center reading on the s side of town was 80!

For Irma if y'all get the dirty side it'll probably be 110ish, so just hope you only get the backside...

The Orlando airport (MCO) reported 69kt wind with gusts to 91kts in Charley. Orlando could see winds as strong or a little stronger with Irma.

Yep and lasting much longer covering the whole area. Charley was very small and moved very quickly- he just aimed well and hit downtown Orlando, large suburbs all along I-4 in Winter Park, Maitland, Altamonte, Longwood, Sanford and Daytona- causing lots of damage, but remarkably his core at that point t was only about 20 miles wide. Irma is huge - maybe twice that size.

[NDG]

https://i.imgur.com/PfPizOt.gif

Does it appear it is slowing some or is it my eyes? IM

Bases on the last two fixes' distance Irma averaged 13-14 mph.

[Sciencerocks]

000
URNT15 KNHC 080237
AF309 1811A IRMA HDOB 36 20170908
022630 2139N 07243W 6961 02854 9720 +086 +047 065132 136 108 015 00
022700 2138N 07242W 6964 02835 9699 +089 +051 069135 141 109 018 00
022730 2137N 07242W 6962 02826 9677 +095 +057 071127 132 115 011 03
022800 2137N 07241W 6978 02791 9652 +104 +059 067118 123 115 012 00
022830 2136N 07240W 6975 02777 9623 +115 +057 061112 120 110 007 03
022900 2135N 07239W 6971 02760 9599 +117 +057 061114 115 114 001 00
022930 2134N 07238W 6978 02728 9576 +115 +057 060116 117 116 002 00
023000 2133N 07237W 6969 02720 9555 +111 +054 060118 119 117 012 00
023030 2132N 07236W 6964 02702 9527 +112 +053 059117 118 117 011 00
023100 2131N 07235W 6970 02663 9490 +116 +057 059120 122 120 026 00
023130 2130N 07234W 6965 02636 9454 +119 +055 056122 124 125 003 00
023200 2129N 07233W 6965 02603 9423 +110 +063 054123 124 116 005 03
023230 2128N 07232W 6989 02518 9365 +110 +070 051123 130 109 052 00
023300 2127N 07231W 6975 02496 9301 +133 +080 054095 114 115 009 03
023330 2126N 07230W 6965 02472 9242 +159 +086 058078 087 083 003 03
023400 2124N 07229W 6967 02439 9209 +163 +087 064058 073 078 003 03
023430 2123N 07228W 6969 02422 9191 +167 +083 089031 050 053 002 03
023500 2121N 07228W 6979 02409 9180 +181 +079 115019 026 027 002 03
023530 2120N 07228W 6971 02417 9171 +190 +077 108004 015 017 001 00
023600 2118N 07230W 6966 02429 9175 +190 +072 345016 021 026 001 03
$$
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Northwest eye has 141 knt flight level and 125knt smrf...Heights are slightly lower but this is clearly a cat4.

[eastcoastFL]

This is probably a stupid question and I'm sure I already know the answer but here it goes. My parents live in Boca Raton and have boarded up all their 2nd Floor windows and all first floor east facing windows, however they do not have any protection for 6 sets of sliding glass doors in the back of the house which faces southeast...they plan to stay in the house for the storm...does anyone see any possible way that they will be safe in the house?

If any of the glass doors break, it could spell disaster. Lots of homes lost roofs when the garage doors failed, and their are some similarities, don't you think?

I am very worried for them...they won't leave because they have a safe room in the interior of the home that they plan to go into if the weather gets to bad. We have impact windows at our place and insisted they come stay with us but they are refusing because the "storms are never as bad as forecasted"

Sounds just like my grandma. What finally got her moving was when I said that even if you survive in your safe room what are you going to do for the days or weeks after before you can be reached? Just sit in a pile of rubble hungry hot wet and wonder when help will come? Roads will be impassable electric and phones will be out. It will just you and your safe room... It worked for my grandma. She's in Boynton and as stubborn as they get.

[NDG]

Winds have definitely come down, Cat 4 IMO.

023100 2131N 07235W 6970 02663 9490 +116 +057 059120 122 120 026 00
023130 2130N 07234W 6965 02636 9454 +119 +055 056122 124 125 003 00
023200 2129N 07233W 6965 02603 9423 +110 +063 054123 124 116 005 03
023230 2128N 07232W 6989 02518 9365 +110 +070 051123 130 109 052 00

[1900hurricane]

Any word from ms bee yet?

I know she survived the storm safely, a few here have had contact with her. But conditions on the island sound beyond terrible

Thank you. I tried searching the thread and checked the check-in thread, but didn't find anything. So glad to know she is safe.

They posted today in the Jose thread.