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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9081 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:22 pm

tolakram wrote:
Vdogg wrote:Where is the GFS on these charts?


It's called AVNO on those charts. Not sure why, something historical no doubt.

Here's some abbreviations.

http://derecho.math.uwm.edu/models/models.html


AVN is what the American model was called prior to the GFS. It stood for the Aviation model. Before that, it was the MRF.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9082 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:23 pm

Steve wrote:72 hours, EC Is coming up toward SW tip of FL showing 927mb on the low resolution version near Marathon Key and the Everglades. . It might be a hair far west, so just as I expect the Eastern tracks to move a little farther west, EC may nudge 20-25 miles or so back west.


The Euro has 150 mph wind gusts over Homestead & 125 mph wind gusts over Miami, it will still be a problem for Miami Dade if this run is correct.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9083 Postby p1nheadlarry » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:23 pm

Steve wrote:96 hours up near Gainesville, FL. It doesn't look like this run of the European will go offshore. The two hits will be the keys and mainland of Florida.


I was out of the NHC cone for six hours, maybe they put it back over me lol
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9084 Postby p1nheadlarry » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:24 pm

PTPatrick wrote:Euro barely saves Miami the worst but spreads the misery out over the whole state. Not sure which is better.


Economically, agricultural losses would be astounding on this run
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9085 Postby Sanibel » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:24 pm

If there a way to post the Euro track between these 24 hour chunks?


All evacuation routes on this Euro run are in to the storm...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9086 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:26 pm

Sanibel wrote:If there a way to post the Euro track between these 24 hour chunks?


weather.us shows 3 hour increments.

https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/fl ... 1500z.html
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9087 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:27 pm

12z run

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9088 Postby bella_may » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:28 pm

tolakram wrote:12z run

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Has that northwest turn always been there? Or am I crazy?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9089 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:28 pm

The Euro forecasts wind gusts in the 90-100 mph range for the Orlando area, 110 mph gusts for east central coastal FL.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9090 Postby gtalum » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:28 pm

One tiny positive is that this run really drops the wind speed quickly as it travels up the state.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9091 Postby Steve » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:29 pm

wxGuy1,

Thanks for making me feel old with those throwback references to the MRF and AVN!
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EC Tracks toward the AL/GA Border southwest of Atlanta between Atlanta and Birmingham. What I get from that is the High coming down from Canada is forcing it pretty far west but farther south than the other models because it is farther west to begin with.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9092 Postby opticsguy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:30 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9093 Postby psyclone » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:31 pm

That EURO run is terrifying for folks farther west and is well west of the official track. The 5 pm update from the NHC will be crucial as we will be able to see how much credence they put in it. I'm going to yield to them and see what they say. Needless to say it gave me palpitations.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9094 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:32 pm

 https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/905859917776654336



Ryan Maue ✔ @RyanMaue
European model wind gust swathe covers Florida peninsula in hurricane force wind gusts ... #Irma continues up I-75 thru Georgia.
2:26 PM - Sep 7, 2017

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9095 Postby Patrick99 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:33 pm

NDG wrote:
Steve wrote:72 hours, EC Is coming up toward SW tip of FL showing 927mb on the low resolution version near Marathon Key and the Everglades. . It might be a hair far west, so just as I expect the Eastern tracks to move a little farther west, EC may nudge 20-25 miles or so back west.


The Euro has 150 mph wind gusts over Homestead & 125 mph wind gusts over Miami, it will still be a problem for Miami Dade if this run is correct.


A big problem, yes, but maybe a few more roofs would stay on if that track verified. Will take what I *might* be able to get at this point.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9096 Postby ava_ati » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:33 pm

Wow, I expected small shifts to the west putting Jacksonville under the gun but I didn't expect a huge shift from the Euro putting Jacksonville on the NE quadrant of the eye wall.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9097 Postby skufful » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:34 pm

tolakram wrote:12z run

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Wondering how this model verifies with the NHC? I am up in Beaufort, SC and have been in the crosshairs for sometime now.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9098 Postby Steve » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:35 pm

NDG wrote:
Steve wrote:72 hours, EC Is coming up toward SW tip of FL showing 927mb on the low resolution version near Marathon Key and the Everglades. . It might be a hair far west, so just as I expect the Eastern tracks to move a little farther west, EC may nudge 20-25 miles or so back east (edit).


The Euro has 150 mph wind gusts over Homestead & 125 mph wind gusts over Miami, it will still be a problem for Miami Dade if this run is correct.


! meant Euro would nudge 20-25 miles back EAST. Yeah, I agree. Miami/Miami Gardens/Homestead/Kendall - all that seeing a minimum of Cat 3 conditions even with the EC as far west as it was. I expect it to move back a little though unless it's onto something nothing else has latched onto yet. I'm not taking the NAVGEM seriously. EC continues toward Memphis.

JMA is almost a clone of the European track-wise but starts off a little father east in South Florida. In my mind, its 12Z run has the most legitimate track so far.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0&ypos=221
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9099 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:35 pm

Not model related but he's got experience as far as where to go.

 https://twitter.com/iCyclone/status/905857049426362369




Josh Morgerman ✔ @iCyclone
2 pm. 12Z GFS ticked W, Euro dodged way W. So I'm goin' for SE FL solution. In Jupiter, heading S on FL Tnpk. N-bound traffic heavy. #IRMA
2:15 PM - Sep 7, 2017
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#9100 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:35 pm

florida west coast is 12 years overdue for a major
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