ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1181 Postby Frank P » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:33 pm

pcolaman wrote:It looks like the nnw movement might be trying to occur.


sure hints of the NNW motion on the IR loops, also should be soon when the eye is completely wrapped with dense convection
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1182 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:33 pm

Western eyewall still needs improvement. Wind profile from recon is also very lopsided at the moment.

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1183 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:38 pm

Let me repeat this again, 102 knot flight level winds found by recon on the NE eyewall.

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1184 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:39 pm

Flight level winds alone may support 100mph at 11, JMO.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1185 Postby pcolaman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:40 pm

Frank P wrote:
pcolaman wrote:It looks like the nnw movement might be trying to occur.


sure hints of the NNW motion on the IR loops, also should be soon when the eye is completely wrapped with dense convection



Looks to be 2 degrees or clicks to the left of 85
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1186 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:40 pm

Based on the SFMR and other data, 80 kt looks to be the current intensity.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1187 Postby Craters » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:42 pm

Kazmit wrote:
Ritzcraker wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:There is a very warm gom ahead with minimal shear..good luck to whoever is inside if 40 miles from landfall...good roof straps and all windows covered are in order


Oceanic Heat Content shows that while there is a loop eddy ahead of Michael there are (relatively) colder waters past that.

https://imgur.com/lyrbUsK

Cooler, yes, but not anywhere close to "cool". Definitely enough to sustain a major hurricane.


Yep.

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1188 Postby Abdullah » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:43 pm

NDG wrote:102 knot flight level winds!!!!!!!!

01:20:00Z 23.117N 84.983W 733.0 mb
(~ 21.65 inHg) 2,544 meters
(~ 8,346 feet) 983.1 mb
(~ 29.03 inHg) - From 148° at 100 knots
(From the SSE at ~ 115.1 mph) 12.3°C*
(~ 54.1°F*) -* 102 knots
(~ 117.4 mph)


Really pushing the limit right there.

We thought Florence would be the worst one of the season. I think this could surpass Florence in intensity.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1189 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:44 pm

pcolaman wrote:
Frank P wrote:
pcolaman wrote:It looks like the nnw movement might be trying to occur.


sure hints of the NNW motion on the IR loops, also should be soon when the eye is completely wrapped with dense convection



Looks to be 2 degrees or clicks to the left of 85


Based on the recon's fix, it is still moving almost due north. It only moved .07 degrees to the west from the last fix.

22.950N 85.250W
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1190 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:44 pm

NDG wrote:Let me repeat this again, 102 knot flight level winds found by recon on the NE eyewall.

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Can you go for the trifecta
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1191 Postby MississippiWx » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:46 pm

Looks like Mike is going to put on a show tonight.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1192 Postby pcolaman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:46 pm

NDG wrote:
pcolaman wrote:
Frank P wrote:
sure hints of the NNW motion on the IR loops, also should be soon when the eye is completely wrapped with dense convection



Looks to be 2 degrees or clicks to the left of 85


Based on the recon's fix, it is still moving almost due north. It only moved .07 degrees to the west from the last fix.

22.950N 85.250W



Like i said , 2 clicks to the west of 85 so not a true north heading. if true would be 85 still...
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1193 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:49 pm

pcolaman wrote:
NDG wrote:
pcolaman wrote:

Looks to be 2 degrees or clicks to the left of 85


Based on the recon's fix, it is still moving almost due north. It only moved .07 degrees to the west from the last fix.

22.950N 85.250W



Like i said , 2 clicks to the west of 85 so not a true north heading. if true would be 85 still...


It's been straddling exactly 85.2 for most of the afternoon.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1194 Postby Frank P » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:50 pm

pcolaman wrote:
NDG wrote:
pcolaman wrote:

Looks to be 2 degrees or clicks to the left of 85


Based on the recon's fix, it is still moving almost due north. It only moved .07 degrees to the west from the last fix.

22.950N 85.250W

Latest IR loop sure looks like at least a wobble to the NNW :D
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1195 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:52 pm

I'm not all that surprised. With a pressure of 970mb, a jump in the winds was inevitable once deep convection started firing again in the NE quad. Michael is obviously still exhibiting a bursting CDO pattern, but the towers are more numerous and persistent than they were 12 hours ago. Additionally, its outer bands appear to be shrinking slightly, which may allow for banding to further consolidate in the core and the pressure gradient to tighten.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1196 Postby Kazmit » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:54 pm

NDG wrote:102 knot flight level winds!!!!!!!!

01:20:00Z 23.117N 84.983W 733.0 mb
(~ 21.65 inHg) 2,544 meters
(~ 8,346 feet) 983.1 mb
(~ 29.03 inHg) - From 148° at 100 knots
(From the SSE at ~ 115.1 mph) 12.3°C*
(~ 54.1°F*) -* 102 knots
(~ 117.4 mph)

That translates to around 90kts surface level right? :eek:
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1197 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:54 pm

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1198 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:55 pm

Looks NNW for sure. IMO
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1199 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:57 pm

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1200 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:00 pm

Never mind, it looks like they are not going with the 102 knot flight level winds recorded, I guess it was suspicious.

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URNT12 KNHC 090152
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL142018
A. 09/00:53:50Z
B. 22.87 deg N 085.25 deg W
C. 700 mb 2867 m
D. 974 mb
E. NA
F. OPEN W
G. E36/40/30
H. 69 kt
I. 313 deg 10 nm 00:51:00Z
J. 062 deg 74 kt
K. 321 deg 19 nm 00:48:30Z
L. 72 kt
M. 133 deg 18 nm 00:59:30Z
N. 218 deg 85 kt
O. 133 deg 23 nm 01:01:00Z
P. 9 C / 3047 m
Q. 17 C / 3044 m
R. NA / NA
S. 12345 / 7
T. 0.02 / 1 nm
U. AF300 0714A MICHAEL OB 03
MAX FL WIND 85 KT 133 / 23 NM 01:01:00Z
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