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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#121 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:59 am

Ntxw wrote:Would Hilda or Ignacio '15 be a good comparison? If so I don't see why this won't become the next major


I’m kind of thinking Lester 16 is a good comparison but this is further south. Ignacio and Hilda weren’t powerful for as long as I think this one could be.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#122 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:27 am

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I'd bet on a strong Category 4 Hector at least by Sunday.

HWRF model (06z) steadily intensifies the storm heading west over warm waters.


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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#123 Postby Kazmit » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:34 am

Interesting... if it goes too far north, water temps will drop off and it may not get as strong, but if it goes further south it will be stronger, but miss Hawaii.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#124 Postby storminabox » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:39 am

Kazmit wrote:Interesting... if it goes too far north, water temps will drop off and it may not get as strong, but if it goes further south it will be stronger, but miss Hawaii.


I’m all for the south option
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#125 Postby Kazmit » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:47 am

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Kazmit wrote:Interesting... if it goes too far north, water temps will drop off and it may not get as strong, but if it goes further south it will be stronger, but miss Hawaii.


I’m all for the south option


Me too. I hope the south trend continues. Anything but the recent GFS run.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#126 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:55 am

If it takes the southern track,it may do the crossover to the Western Pacific or conditions will not allow that to happen?
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#127 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:36 am

12z GFS has a very close call as a cat 4.

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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#128 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:39 am

cycloneye wrote:If it takes the southern track,it may do the crossover to the Western Pacific or conditions will not allow that to happen?


Most likely it recurves before making it to 180W.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#129 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:49 am

cycloneye wrote:12z GFS has a very close call as a cat 4.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/CRDIUfQ.png[/ig]


And an even closer call with Kauai.

We're going to have to wait until a G-IV planes samples the environment, but it's good to see that models are converging south of the islands.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#130 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:53 am

12z UKMET barely develops this. But it's likely not handling Hector well since Hector is already stronger than what it shows.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#131 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:58 am

A hurricane/typhoon John repeat would be interesting
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#132 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:15 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
cycloneye wrote:12z GFS has a very close call as a cat 4.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/CRDIUfQ.png[/ig]


And an even closer call with Kauai.

We're going to have to wait until a G-IV planes samples the environment, but it's good to see that models are converging south of the islands.


If models trend northward that'd suggest some windshield whippering and I'd expect this to pass just south of Hawaii due to overall north bias shown by the models. If this continues to trend south this is a threat to Johnston Atoll but no threat to Hawaii.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#133 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:19 pm

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6z FV3 similar to old GFS at 12z.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#134 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:48 pm

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ICON has another system to the left which could throw a wrench into this.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#135 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:59 pm

Well established southerly outflow channel compared to yesterday. Which would be a precursor of a developing system later becoming a strong hurricane. Still dealing with dry air:

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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#136 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:03 pm

NDG wrote:Hard for me to believe the models in their medium to long range forecasting the windshear to vanish over the Hawaiian Islands, which has been permanent over this area so far. I believe it when I see it. IMO.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/IfWEENA.gif[img]


Certainly agree. The shear was there in 2014 and 2015 as well. It's been there ever since I joined this forum and began understanding how TC formation works.

200mb wind on the GFS and the past couple of Euro runs show this feature (TUTT??) moving well north of Hawaii by hour 144:

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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#137 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:09 pm

12z Euro more north than the past 2 runs but a bit weaker, keeping Hector a strong TS vs a minimal hurricane entering the CPAC.

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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#138 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:18 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Image

ICON has another system to the left which could throw a wrench into this.


Hector is the one south of Hawaii. The thing to the east is another system
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#139 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:34 pm

Looks like a bit more shear over Hector on this 12z run, keeping it weaker. But the overall upper level environment continues to look really favorable.
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Re: EPAC: HECTOR - Tropical Storm

#140 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:37 pm

Slowing down @ hour 168 on the 12z Euro and begins to take a more WNW turn. Damn, it looks like it may either hit the big island or recurve east.

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Edit: Looks like the ridge holds firm, and keeps it west:

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