ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1241 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:01 pm

Lets see if the AF recon finds those 100 knot fl level winds the NOAA recon recorded.

025500 2310N 08500W 6954 03001 9889 +079 +079 173084 090 066 028 00
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1242 Postby Hammy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:04 pm

NDG wrote:Lets see if the AF recon finds those 100 knot fl level winds the NOAA recon recorded.

025500 2310N 08500W 6954 03001 9889 +079 +079 173084 090 066 028 00


AF often finds higher winds (no idea why that is though) so the next pass will be interesting.

Edit: 90kt, spoke too soon.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1243 Postby edu2703 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:05 pm

From NHC Forecast Advisory #10

Michael's steady intensification over the past 48 hours in the face of 20-kt westerly shear defies traditional logic. Either the shear calculations are unrepresentative or Michael has become more inertially stable due to its large eye and large outer wind field, making it more shear resistant.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1244 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:05 pm

This is interesting from the latest discussion.

Michael's steady intensification over the past 48 hours in the face
of 20-kt westerly shear defies traditional logic. Either the shear
calculations are unrepresentative or Michael has become more
inertially stable due to its large eye and large outer wind field,
making it more shear resistant. Having said that, all of the model
guidance calls for the shear to decrease to around 10 kt or less by
36 hours, which argues for at least steady intensification during
that time given that Michael will be moving over warm SSTs of
28.5C-29C, which are about 1-2 deg C above average for this time of
the year.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1245 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:06 pm

According to 11PM NHC discussion, Michael continues to defy common sense and logic...
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1246 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:09 pm

Didn't Opal go through decent shear and get well organized, before it bombed out overnight down to 916mb?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1247 Postby meriland29 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:11 pm

I just want to quote this very interesting bit off the latest NHC advisory../

"Michael's steady intensification over the past 48 hours in the face
of 20-kt westerly shear defies traditional logic. Either the shear
calculations are unrepresentative or Michael has become more
inertially stable due to its large eye and large outer wind field,
making it more shear resistant."

Interesting wordage there...
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1248 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:13 pm

AF recon didn't find the 100 knot flight level winds but finds the pressure a little lower than the last pass.
23.1N & 85.44W

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1249 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:16 pm

Pressure down to 969 mb
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1250 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:24 pm

This is about the time I refresh the page every couple of minutes desperate for more info, but there's really not much more out there right now yet
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1251 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:25 pm

Hot towers firing southeast of the center now. Could be wheels up for rapid intensification.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1252 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:26 pm

Just an FYI on how the forecast track has been left biased in the short term, as if the low level circulation keeps wanting to chase the convection and MLC being pushed to the right by the mod shear.

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1253 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:28 pm

meriland29 wrote:I just want to quote this very interesting bit off the latest NHC advisory../

"Michael's steady intensification over the past 48 hours in the face
of 20-kt westerly shear defies traditional logic. Either the shear
calculations are unrepresentative or Michael has become more
inertially stable due to its large eye and large outer wind field,
making it more shear resistant."

Interesting wordage there...


I found that interesting also. Imagine canes start evolving to become shear resistant?
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1254 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:28 pm

SE quadrant just lit up with more convection in the last 15-20 min. Michael is on the verge of closing off ring (albeit still a bit misshapen) of -75C tops
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1255 Postby Ntxw » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:28 pm

EquusStorm wrote:This is about the time I refresh the page every couple of minutes desperate for more info, but there's really not much more out there right now yet


Aside what from what recon is finding there isn't much to post yet. I suspect a lot of activity here in the morning and tomorrow.

Michael has definitely fired off strong convection this evening with cold cloud tops. As with any storm if the core can really get it together, getting to a major shouldn't be a problem. Shear seems to be the biggest inhibitor but thus far has not been a problem for the storm somehow.

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1256 Postby Hugo1989 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:31 pm

Mike is getting ready for the Dmax.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1257 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:41 pm

Actually able to see Michael's eye.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1258 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:48 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:SE quadrant just lit up with more convection in the last 15-20 min. Michael is on the verge of closing off ring (albeit still a bit misshapen) of -75C tops

Actually as of now, its cranking out a ring of -80C which is about 2/3 complete now. Definitely strengthening now, if it keeps this up pressure and wind should start to respond in the next couple hours.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1259 Postby SeaBrz_FL » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:51 pm

EquusStorm wrote:This is about the time I refresh the page every couple of minutes desperate for more info, but there's really not much more out there right now yet

Yep, know that feeling well. A four-hour sleep shift followed by an hour to check the web, repeat, repeat.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1260 Postby meriland29 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:58 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
meriland29 wrote:I just want to quote this very interesting bit off the latest NHC advisory../

"Michael's steady intensification over the past 48 hours in the face
of 20-kt westerly shear defies traditional logic. Either the shear
calculations are unrepresentative or Michael has become more
inertially stable due to its large eye and large outer wind field,
making it more shear resistant."

Interesting wordage there...


I found that interesting also. Imagine canes start evolving to become shear resistant?


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