ATL: MICHAEL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2021 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:39 pm

RL3AO wrote:The northern GOM doesn't get too many major hits where a storm intensifies until landfall.


Unless something changes drastically soon, this way be one of those very rare occurrences. At the very least, it's not looking like it'll have much time to weaken before landfall at this rate.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2022 Postby txwatcher91 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:39 pm

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drezee wrote:Alright Storm2K, Michael just made a Fist. Huge tower wrapping fully around the eye wall. This is a precursor to deepening. It happened an hour before recon. Hold on to your seats to Cat 4....this is very bad

After the Fist, you always get a nice ring of intense convection. It will intensify until an EWRC. If it doesn't have one, then we are in trouble...


Always on point... agreed nothing to stop this except either land or an EWRC.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2023 Postby HeeBGBz » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:39 pm

eastcoastFL[quote="chaser1 wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
Yup its about to cross 86W again soon to the east. Its been inching back that way. It will be interesting how sharp the turn is.


Last hour or so sure has teased a couple east of north wobbles. Question is, when are wobbles no longer wobbles? Here's food for thought.... official NHC forecast position for 0600Z later tonight (well, okay technically early tomm. a.m.) is 27.6 and 86.6. Tomm. afternoon at 1800Z it is 29.7 and 85.9. All I know is that i'm keeping one eye on whether Michael crosses that 86 W line before midnight. That's aside from any chance he may be south of it's early a.m. forecast point as well. Both however certainly wouldn't bode well for those east of Apalach. given the even greater extreme storm surge that could pile up further east.


Thats exactly the same observations Im making. I feel like its going to head a bit further east. We will see if the nhc is still calling it due N.


This storm is worrying me. I don't see the storm doing what the models are saying it is going to do. It gets closer and closer. Someone on tv just said it was supposed to continue north for 12 more hours. If that's the forecast, it will be in our front yard. No one is at all prepared here, in case Michael is still not playing by the rules. Forgive me, if I'm just having Katrina paranoia.

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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2024 Postby HurricaneIrma » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:40 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
Extratropical94 wrote:
meriland29 wrote:

Flagged or considered???


Unflagged.


Holy smokes. THAT is unreal and it looks like the pressure wants to drop more. :eek:


This will make a run for cat.5
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2025 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:40 pm

FLpanhandle91 wrote:
NDG wrote:Fix: 26.45N & 86.38W

230600 2627N 08623W 7520 02101 9541 +190 +156 205025 028 030 000 00


Still a good western component to its northern movenent.


It actually took a NNE jog after the previous recon fix.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2026 Postby bob rulz » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:41 pm

Not sure conditions are quite good enough for cat 5. My educated guess is this will peak around 125kts. Then again it's really defied expectation in every way so far, so who knows? Stranger things have happened.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2027 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:41 pm

Based on the recent data, I'd bump it up to 110 kt.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2028 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:42 pm

txwatcher91 wrote:
drezee wrote:
drezee wrote:Alright Storm2K, Michael just made a Fist. Huge tower wrapping fully around the eye wall. This is a precursor to deepening. It happened an hour before recon. Hold on to your seats to Cat 4....this is very bad

After the Fist, you always get a nice ring of intense convection. It will intensify until an EWRC. If it doesn't have one, then we are in trouble...


Always on point... agreed nothing to stop this except either land or an EWRC.


Considering the eyewall just managed to close relatively recently, I wouldn't bank on an EWRC. Landfall is due tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2029 Postby RL3AO » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:43 pm

I think it has a good chance at 130 kts by morning. It's really taking off on satellite.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2030 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:44 pm

meriland29 wrote:If those levels prove true, he could possibly tickle a cat 5 tonight. That being said, the rampant IR leads me to thoughts of a EWRC as well



The storm is at least 12-18 hours away from an ewrc. This thing will become a solid cat4 first.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2031 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:45 pm

18z HWRF and HMON are both locked on a CAT4 landfall near 930mb
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2032 Postby hurricaneCW » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:45 pm

The N to NNE component upon landfall will help it from weakening much if at all. Models are hell bent on keeping him a major all the way through.

The cool shelf waters will be the only detriment but he should be moving at a good pace (15+ mph) so even that could have minimal effects.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2033 Postby StruThiO » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:45 pm

2018OCT09 230038 6.0 938.5 115.0 6.0 6.9 6.9 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF -23.59 -75.33 EYE/P -99 IR 47.2 26.53 86.44 ARCHER GOES16 33.5
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2034 Postby wx98 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:46 pm

One name I haven’t seen mentioned is Camille. I know Camille was much stronger and further west, but this certainly draws similarities to Camille.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2035 Postby Buck » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:46 pm

Whether he makes Cat 5 or not (and I think he will get close if not achieve it), the impact won’t be much different. This is a monster and if you are still in the path, get out. It’s not too late. Head W or NW (or I guess it makes sense for some to head down the peninsula).
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2036 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:47 pm

supercane4867 wrote:18z HWRF and HMON are both locked on a CAT4 landfall near 930mb


The HWRF has done a great job with the intensity of Michael for a couple of days now. I remember a couple days ago when it had Michael as a 945 MB Cat 4 in the Gulf most scoffed at the idea.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2037 Postby KWT » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:47 pm

RL3AO wrote:I think it has a good chance at 130 kts by morning. It's really taking off on satellite.


Yeah plenty of time for this yo get to those levels, and the presentation is just getting betrer.

Remember Opal got to 916mbs, that sort of level is not impossible.
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2038 Postby drezee » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:47 pm

RL3AO wrote:I think it has a good chance at 130 kts by morning. It's really taking off on satellite.

I honestly agree...I know people who did not evacuate SE of PCB. I just called them and asked them evacuate. They wont leave. Prayed 4 them....
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2039 Postby lrak » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:48 pm

RL3AO wrote:I think it has a good chance at 130 kts by morning. It's really taking off on satellite.


Wow...been extremely busy at work and looked at the last visible satellite and I've never seen that before.

Be safe....
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Re: ATL: MICHAEL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2040 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:48 pm

wx98 wrote:One name I haven’t seen mentioned is Camille. I know Camille was much stronger and further west, but this certainly draws similarities to Camille.


How do they compare in regards to size? I know Camille was quite small.
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