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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#261 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:08 pm

Wow! 180mph with a 917mb min pressure at 120 hours.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#262 Postby Kazmit » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:10 pm

HurricaneMaster_PR wrote:Wow! 180mph with a 917mb min pressure at 120 hours.
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While I do think that it could become a major hurricane, I think this goes overboard with the intensity. Are the conditions really that favorable?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#263 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:11 pm

cycloneye wrote:What does HWRF see as very favorable to be that strong?

The outflow pattern in HWRF resembles last year's Jose. It has Isaac developing a very strong poleward channel enhanced by subtropical jet.

18z HWRF brings pressure down to 917mb at day 5. Windspeed may well exceed CAT5 threshold if that verifies

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#264 Postby Spacecoast » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:12 pm

12z big picture...
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#265 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:14 pm

NDG wrote:
SoupBone wrote:Latest CMC doesn't turn it away before impacting the islands. It has it scraping them, then heading out to sea.

http://i64.tinypic.com/34ig28z.png


The CMC has gone from bad to really really bad as the season has gone, why even bother with it.
Keeps some wishcasters in the game
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#266 Postby Blinhart » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:14 pm

cycloneye wrote:What does HWRF see as very favorable to be that strong?


That is going in between 2 high shear areas and heading to a very low shear area. Also very hot waters.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#267 Postby sphelps8681 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:17 pm

Blinhart wrote:
SoupBone wrote:So a huge change from previous GFS runs is that the open wave (Isaac) gains latitude and heads towards the Yucatan, instead of burying itself in Honduras. If you play the model run, you can see it heading in that direction after clipping Jamaica.


So more like Harvey.


You are not suppose to say the H word!! LOL.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#268 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:23 pm

cycloneye wrote:What does HWRF see as very favorable to be that strong?

I Wonder that too, to bomb like that :eek: , waouw :eek: . Is the environment of low shear and over warm sea surface temperatures is overestimated or... not?!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#269 Postby MetroMike » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:50 pm

Gustywind wrote:
cycloneye wrote:What does HWRF see as very favorable to be that strong?

I Wonder that too, to bomb like that :eek: , waouw :eek: . Is the environment of low shear and over warm sea surface temperatures is overestimated or... not?!


Could be it is seeing less shear in the Carribian than other models.
Shear forecasts are not known to be so accurate.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#270 Postby AubreyStorm » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:17 pm

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#271 Postby SoupBone » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:30 pm

GFS sends it due north to central Cuba after hitting Jamaica (hour 180-192)! Run not done yet.

So that's why the NHC wrote that. :lol:
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#272 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:52 pm

SoupBone wrote:GFS sends it due north to central Cuba after hitting Jamaica (hour 180-192)! Run not done yet.

So that's why the NHC wrote that. :lol:


Looks to me like it goes from Jamaica to the Yucatan Channel before dissipating this run

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#273 Postby AubreyStorm » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:05 am

Puerto Rico we HAVE a problem.
Ohh no Cycloneye

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#274 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:25 am

The euro and gfs in the long range (day 10) both have troughing over the GOM, this would pull whatever Isaac is into the GOM at that time if Isaac is stronger than forecasted. A weak Isaac plows into the Yucatán, but a stronger Isaac feels the influence of the trough or in the case of euro- the remnants of Florence over the gulf and gets pulled up in there. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e4 ... e0266b.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cf ... 60d5a7.png
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#275 Postby bamajammer4eva » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:39 am

More gfs ensemble members hold onto Isaac through Saturday Night.Here is the trend since the 06z run

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#276 Postby MississippiWx » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:47 am

bamajammer4eva wrote:More gfs ensemble members hold onto Isaac through Saturday Night.Here is the trend since the 06z run


Good catch. :uarrow: That's a pretty significant increase.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#277 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:13 am

Maybe some of the models are now factoring in the smaller eye feature?
Makes a difference but don't know if they even have a program variable for that.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#278 Postby SoupBone » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:27 am

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Maybe the UKMET, CMC, and HWRF were onto something.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#279 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:22 am

SoupBone wrote:https://s22.postimg.cc/x6tuzi05t/storm_09_1.gif

Maybe the UKMET, CMC, and HWRF were onto something.


Yeap, perhaps they are up to something with the GFS now wanting to join them.

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#280 Postby Kazmit » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:33 am

12z GFS sucks it poleward through the Greater Antilles.
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