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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#301 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:10 am

Seriously????

10W MARIA 180706 0600 16.5N 141.6E WPAC 135 922
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#302 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:20 am

Eyewall replacement cycle is well underway... Looks classic



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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#303 Postby euro6208 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:43 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Seriously????

10W MARIA 180706 0600 16.5N 141.6E WPAC 135 922


:lol:

Yup we've seen this many times before. Max out at low end 5 and weaken. There's rules in the absence of recon.
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#304 Postby euro6208 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:44 am

TPPN11 PGTW 060637

A. SUPER TYPHOON 10W (MARIA)

B. 06/0600Z

C. 16.49N

D. 141.60E

E. ONE/HMWRI8

F. T6.5/7.0/D2.5/24HRS STT: W0.5/03HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS/MSI

H. REMARKS: 07A/PBO IRREG EYE/ANMTN. OW EYE SURROUNDED BY W
YIELDS AN E# OF 6.0. ADDED 0.5 FOR EYE ADJUSTMENT TO YIELD A DT
OF 6.5. MET IS 5.5. PT IS 6.0. DBO DT.7 NM DIAMETER EYE.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
06/0518Z 16.50N 141.78E SSMI


ZOUFALY
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#305 Postby euro6208 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:48 am

I don't understand how it weaken by 5 knots to a 4. Convection is stronger now and the eye remains very warm. It's all dvorak based. Truly sad. We will never know how strong it got in the absence of recon.

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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#306 Postby StruThiO » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:49 am

such a gorgeous storm
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#307 Postby euro6208 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:29 am

Don't look now but the models are bringing Maria in more south than thought.

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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#308 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:44 am

Latest microwave image shows a fairly large eye.
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#309 Postby Guamphoon » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:57 am

I feel like we really dodged a bullet here in Guam.

Wonder what another night of development will bring us. It's just getting dark now.
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#310 Postby euro6208 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:06 am

Wilder and scarier once that EWRC finishes.

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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#311 Postby euro6208 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:09 am

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WDPN32 PGTW 060900
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR SUPER TYPHOON 10W (MARIA) WARNING NR
15//
RMKS//
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
SUPER TYPHOON (STY) 10W (MARIA), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 254 NM
NORTHWEST OF ANDERSEN AFB, GUAM, HAS TRACKED NORTHWESTWARD AT 06
KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE
IMAGERY (MSI) SHOWS THAT STY 10W HAS MAINTAINED AN EXCELLENT CLOUD
STRUCTURE WITH A TIGHTLY DEFINED 7 NM WIDE EYE FEATURE. EXCELLENT
OUTFLOW IS ALSO EVIDENT IN MSI. THE INITIAL POSITION IS PLACED WITH
HIGH CONFIDENCE BASED ON A 060600Z HIMAWARI VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGE
WHICH SHOWS THE WELL-DEFINED EYE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY OF 135 KNOTS
IS BASED ON A DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY (CI) ESTIMATE OF T7.0 (140
KNOTS) FROM PGTW. A 060518Z 85GHZ SSMI MICROWAVE IMAGE SHOWS
CONCENTRIC EYEWALLS, INDICATING STY 10W IS UNDERGOING AN EYEWALL
REPLACEMENT CYCLE. EVIDENCE OF AN EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE INDICATES
STY 10W MAY EXPERIENCE A SLIGHT AND BRIEF WEAKENING AS THE OUTER
EYEWALL CONTRACTS BEFORE ANOTHER RE-INTENSIFICATION PHASE. THEREFORE,
THE INTENSITY HAS DECREASED BY 5 KNOTS SINCE THE PREVIOUS WARNING.
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT STY 10W STILL HAS EXCELLENT OUTFLOW
DUE TO TROPICAL UPPER TROPOSPHERIC TROUGH (TUTT) CELLS LOCATED TO THE
WEST AND THE NORTHEAST. STY 10W IS ALSO EXPERIENCING FAVORABLE
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (10 TO 15 KNOTS). SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES ALSO
REMAIN FAVORABLE (NEAR 30 DEGREES CELSIUS). STY 10W IS TRACKING
NORTHWESTWARD ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE SUBTROPICAL
RIDGE (STR) WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE
PREVIOUS PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE. DESPITE A 5 KNOT DECREASE IN
INTENSITY DUE TO AN EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE, STY 10W REMAINS IN A
FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT AND IS EXPECTED TO RE-INTENSIFY UPON COMPLETION
OF THE EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE.
B. STY 10W IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE TRACKING NORTHWESTWARD THROUGH
TAU 36 WHILE CONTINUING TO TRACK AROUND THE AFOREMENTIONED STR. STY
10W WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE FAVORABLE OUTFLOW, VERTICAL WIND
SHEAR, AND SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES DURING THIS TIMEFRAME. NUMERICAL
MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH TAU 72 WITH A 116NM
SPREAD AT TAU 72. THEREFORE, THERE IS HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THIS PORTION
OF THE JTWC FORECAST TRACK.
C. AFTER TAU 72, STY 10W IS FORECAST TO TRACK WEST-NORTHWESTWARD
AS THE STR TO THE NORTHEAST CONTINUES TO BUILD WESTWARD AND REMAINS
THE DOMINANT STEERING INFLUENCE. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS WILL BECOME
SLIGHTLY LESS FAVORABLE AS SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES COOL SLIGHTLY,
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT VALUES DECREASE AND UPPER-LEVEL DIVERGENCE WEAKENS
DUE TO INCREASING NORTHERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR ASSOCIATED WITH A
BUILDING UPPER-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST. NUMERICAL
MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH A 280 NM SPREAD IN
SOLUTIONS AT TAU 120. HOWEVER, THE MAJORITY OF THE MULTI-MODEL
CONSENSUS MEMBERS ARE TIGHTLY PACKED IN THE CENTER OF THE SPREAD.
THEREFORE, THERE IS HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THIS PORTION OF THE JTWC
FORECAST TRACK.//
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#312 Postby NotoSans » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:27 am

euro6208 wrote:I don't understand how it weaken by 5 knots to a 4. Convection is stronger now and the eye remains very warm. It's all dvorak based. Truly sad. We will never know how strong it got in the absence of recon.

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Eye temp has actually cooled to OW range and microwave suggests an EWRC, all indicative of a weakening trend. It’s gonna be a short-term one though.
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#313 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:31 am

Once the cycle is completed, Maria would sour to new heights.
Convection is getting colder as the sun goes down.
I think Maria has the potential to be a T7.5
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#314 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:02 am

Meanwhile, JMA says Maria has strengthened and will intensify even further.

TY 1808 (Maria)
Issued at 09:45 UTC, 6 July 2018

<Analysis at 09 UTC, 6 July>
Scale -
Intensity Violent
Center position N16°30' (16.5°)
E141°25' (141.4°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 15 km/h (7 kt)
Central pressure 920 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 55 m/s (105 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 75 m/s (150 kt)
≥ 50 kt wind area ALL 130 km (70 NM)
≥ 30 kt wind area ALL 330 km (180 NM)

<Forecast for 09 UTC, 7 July>
Intensity Violent
Center position of probability circle N17°50' (17.8°)
E140°55' (140.9°)
Direction and speed of movement NNW Slow
Central pressure 910 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 55 m/s (110 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 80 m/s (155 kt)
Radius of probability circle 90 km (50 NM)
Storm warning area ALL 240 km (130 NM)

<Forecast for 06 UTC, 8 July>
Intensity Violent
Center position of probability circle N20°10' (20.2°)
E138°55' (138.9°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 15 km/h (8 kt)
Central pressure 905 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 55 m/s (110 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 80 m/s (155 kt)
Radius of probability circle 180 km (95 NM)
Storm warning area ALL 350 km (190 NM)

<Forecast for 06 UTC, 9 July>
Intensity Violent
Center position of probability circle N22°30' (22.5°)
E134°05' (134.1°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 25 km/h (13 kt)
Central pressure 905 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 55 m/s (110 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 80 m/s (155 kt)
Radius of probability circle 260 km (140 NM)
Storm warning area ALL 430 km (230 NM)

Digital Typhoon (based on JMA's data) says Maria has deepened by 72 mb in just 24 hours.

http://agora.ex.nii.ac.jp/digital-typho ... 08.html.en
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#315 Postby doomhaMwx » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:22 am

Looking quite "bumpy" just before sunset today due to ERC...

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#316 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:06 am

Latest MW.
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#317 Postby euro6208 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:40 am

Convection deeper/colder and eye looking smaller. Oh dear. Underestimated. Recon?

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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#318 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:44 am

euro6208 wrote:Convection deeper/colder and eye looking smaller. Oh dear. Underestimated. Recon?

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It's going through an ERC. Not a time for hyperbolic estimates.
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#319 Postby NotoSans » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:53 am

Signs of EWRC are now evident on EIR frames with dry moats emerging in the northern side of CDO. Although environmental conditions remain very favorable, it may take Maria another 12 hours before the EWRC is complete and re-intensification occurs.
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Re: WPAC: MARIA - Typhoon

#320 Postby euro6208 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:21 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
euro6208 wrote:Convection deeper/colder and eye looking smaller. Oh dear. Underestimated. Recon?


It's going through an ERC. Not a time for hyperbolic estimates.


EWRC can induce weakening but not entirely. We've seen this in many Atlantic hurricanes where it develops a concentric eyewall, double-wind maximum, and an increase in the 50 to 64 knot wind radii without weakening.
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