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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#441 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:03 am

Impressive little storm. Just last week the models showed zilch in the deep MDR approaching the Lesser Antilles now we could see a 100mph micro-hurricane. Just another example of how the global models don't handle tiny systems like this very well not only with intensity but with track as well (northward bias)
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#442 Postby txwatcher91 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:10 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:A little dry air intrusion going on perhaps, the eye has become less distinct and the CDO more ragged.


Might be a little bit but I think it has more to do with the storm is nearing dmin which is pretty important over 26-27C waters. Tonight I would expect it to really organize and make a run for major status by tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#443 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:15 am

IR was showing a significant cool down of the eye when Beryl passed 46W.
I think some towers kicked off then and obscured the eye due to their cirrus outflow.
It may also show a false jog to the south.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#444 Postby NotSparta » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:18 am

GCANE wrote:GFS kicking in a strong UL trof to the east as Beryl gets near PR.
Looks like a good setup for poleward outflow channel.

[img]http://i64.tinypic.com/2ccqxq9.png[img]


Wait, where's the TUTT??
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#445 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:21 am

NotSparta wrote:
GCANE wrote:GFS kicking in a strong UL trof to the east as Beryl gets near PR.
Looks like a good setup for poleward outflow channel.

[img]http://i64.tinypic.com/2ccqxq9.png[img]


Wait, where's the TUTT??


Weakening and sliding into the GOM.
Check the anticyclone over Beryl.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#446 Postby NotSparta » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:35 am

GCANE wrote:
NotSparta wrote:
GCANE wrote:GFS kicking in a strong UL trof to the east as Beryl gets near PR.
Looks like a good setup for poleward outflow channel.

[img]http://i64.tinypic.com/2ccqxq9.png[img]


Wait, where's the TUTT??


Weakening and sliding into the GOM.
Check the anticyclone over Beryl.


I saw that. Just keeps retrograding and weakening.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#447 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:35 am

Seems to be a feeder band developing.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#448 Postby MGC » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:41 am

Beryl, largest waterspout on record heads west.....soon to be upgraded to microcane. I'm having my crow for breakfast this morning. Yea, crispy crow. Never thought this disturbance would get named, now forecast to push 100mph. Hopefully the hurricane remains small, I want to see the wind field when recon gets there. RMW of a mile or two? If Beryl can survive the shear I bet it tracks south of Hispaniola. Hold on to your hats.....MGC
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#449 Postby brohavwx » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:47 am

So ... I'm not going on the Models discussion group with this ... but anyone realise Beryl does NOT want to follow Model Guidance ... maybe she doesn't know about them and doing her thing. Been saying that all along.

Now, wouldn't putting a Recon plane out there today while it was passing 45W (at least) been able to pick up more data and better help models for deep south/tropics cyclogenesis research? If it was at 20N they would be out there all like now.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#450 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:49 am

Latest NHC 11 a.m. public advisory forecast cone takes Beryl just south of Hispanolia in 5 days as a moderate TS.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#451 Postby brohavwx » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:59 am

MGC wrote:Beryl, largest waterspout on record heads west.....soon to be upgraded to microcane. I'm having my crow for breakfast this morning. Yea, crispy crow. Never thought this disturbance would get named, now forecast to push 100mph. Hopefully the hurricane remains small, I want to see the wind field when recon gets there. RMW of a mile or two? If Beryl can survive the shear I bet it tracks south of Hispaniola. Hold on to your hats.....MGC


We are watching it VERY closely here in Barbados (13.2N 56.6W). Even the Trinis & Tobagians in Trinidad & Tobago (10.0 - 11.4N 60.5 - 61.8W) have the eyes wide open now. The other islands behind (west) us here too ... we are always getting the taste long before anyone else.

Wish they would put up another ASCAT type satellite - too much open areas with the Metop A & B almost following each other. Remember I guy that got removed from the NHC some years ago for asking for that - that had me so infuriated back then (for us out here). We got plenty CROW to hand out now.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#452 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:05 am

Regardless of Beryl's size, this is an impressive image for early July...

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#453 Postby brohavwx » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:11 am

northjaxpro wrote:Latest NHC 11 a.m. public advisory forecast cone takes Beryl just south of Hispanolia in 5 days as a moderate TS.


Last NHC 11 AM came out at about 10:40 AM and by 11 AM it was near 46.7W by then (not 46.5W) and still wobbling around 10.7N.

The last hour or so the center has clouded over some and so harder to pinpoint but it being surrounded by a more uniform convective canopy from what I can see - when it clears a new story may come forth. Typical so far for this system ... defying all models and even while it is moving slight south of west for the last few hours or near a day, the forecast still defy that and want to crank it WNW ... but Beryl doing her thing she doesn't know about us and our models.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#454 Postby sunnyday » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:12 am

Is there a new location for Beryl’s dissipation, or do any of you think it might reach the U S?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#455 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:16 am

sunnyday wrote:Is there a new location for Beryl’s dissipation, or do any of you think it might reach the U S?


I would think that if it can end up in the Bahamas as at least a decent wave, it could have a shot at it, but who knows
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#456 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:17 am

sunnyday wrote:Is there a new location for Beryl’s dissipation, or do any of you think it might reach the U S?


Development of 96L will have an impact on Beryl's track.
Watching closely 500mb forecast.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#457 Postby brohavwx » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:19 am

weathaguyry wrote:Regardless of Beryl's size, this is an impressive image for early July...

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But if one were to draw lines for the former/historical forecast tracks on or off of this (below), they would look like branches that only want to grow on the right (north) side of it.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#458 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:19 am

Well, Beryl has most definitely defied the odds to this point with developing into a decent hurricane, let alone of what the future holds for her.

Tropical cyclones can have their own unique enviroments at times, especially these very small entities. Beryl is marching to her beat for the time being and definitely holding up well.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane

#459 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:24 am

For all we know this might be a ERC cycle.. though it appears to be a easterly surge in mid level shear. only time will tell. these little systems can be influenced by any little sneeze lol
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#460 Postby Siker » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:34 am

12z CMC redevelops this into a little TS in the Western Gulf of Mexico and sends it into Texas. GFS sends the remnants off the East Coast behind 96L.
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