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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#741 Postby Frank2 » Thu May 24, 2018 3:25 pm

If you're having trouble with the NOAA page try this (click on the "I" first):

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/#
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#742 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu May 24, 2018 3:28 pm

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LarryWx wrote:I've seen enough. In agreement with the NHC and also based on satellite/model trends, I'm now expecting a TS to form in the GOM along with a TS threat to the US GOM coast early next week from the FL Panhandle westward. I now think there's even a 5% chance for a H hit. If a TS+ landfalls in AL or westward by 5/29, it would become the earliest TS to hit in that part of the US on record back to 1851!


I think reanalysis found an earlier storm to hit in 1957 (more than a month before Audrey in the same area)?


I'm not aware of this but that's interesting if true. I did find an earlier one than Audrey here though with a June 8th genesis:

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atl ... /track.gif

Is this by any chance that one?


That might be what I was thinking of.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#743 Postby Nimbus » Thu May 24, 2018 3:29 pm

Frank2 wrote:In the 240 nm range of the Key West radar, the western-most echos (closest to the disturbance) have a northward movement of ~ 10 mph...

https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?pro ... X&loop=yes



I can still see the remnants of the old low level circulation further south closer to Belize without much convection. Appears to be a new circulation getting started just off the northern coast line of the Yucatan maybe 50 miles west of the channel. Easy to get lost looking at extremely local observations, winds in and around thunderstorms create all kinds of almost random inflow patterns.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#744 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 24, 2018 3:32 pm

Nam is about 100 miles west at 54 hours... could be an even earlier turn west..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#745 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 24, 2018 3:44 pm

18z NAM is significantly slower.. the trough over the mountain west is not as far east.. ridging is stronger initially..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#746 Postby DestinHurricane » Thu May 24, 2018 3:45 pm

Any chance we will get a TD by tomorrow night?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#747 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 24, 2018 3:48 pm

Ridging just pumped up from 72 to 84 hours. quite a bit more the 12z. 90l barely even makes into the north central gulf before turning wsw to sw ! if the ridging is this strong witht he test of the guidance for 18z and 00z.. watch out texas ..
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#748 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu May 24, 2018 3:50 pm

But Aric really?? U really think ridging will be that strong ?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#749 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 24, 2018 3:53 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:But Aric really?? U really think ridging will be that strong ?


no reason it cant be.. if the west coast trough does not progress east fast enough then yes strong ridging will build in quickly and the trough will likely go up and over the ridge. which is what looks like would happen if NAM went passed 84 hours.

90L moving do west south of LA at the end of run
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#750 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu May 24, 2018 3:54 pm

Interesting
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#751 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 24, 2018 3:54 pm

18Z ICON is running too. lets see if it makes it to Texas this time again.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#752 Postby Nimbus » Thu May 24, 2018 3:54 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:Any chance we will get a TD by tomorrow night?


Usually these close to home systems get upgraded by recon, but a TD only needs a clear closed circulation. Sheared systems usually take longer to verify.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#753 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 24, 2018 3:59 pm

Models must have got some new data. the trough over the eastern Pacific is much more amplified and the ridging on the ICON over the mountain west intern is also stronger. this will be interesting.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#754 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Thu May 24, 2018 4:02 pm

would love to see this go way west and maybe give us a chance to dry out a little here in Florida! It would be great to have a decent holiday weekend after all.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#755 Postby lrak » Thu May 24, 2018 4:05 pm

Possibly Memorial Day surf Aric?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#756 Postby gatorcane » Thu May 24, 2018 4:05 pm

Sure looks like a bit of an ESE tug going on but overall movement is erratic and looks stationary as shear hits it:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=12

Shear tendency map does show shear is decreasing north of the Yucatan:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#757 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 24, 2018 4:06 pm

lrak wrote:Possibly Memorial Day surf Aric?


Should be :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#758 Postby lrak » Thu May 24, 2018 4:07 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
lrak wrote:Possibly Memorial Day surf Aric?


Should be :)


YAY thanks for the quick response. Time to call all the old bros!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#759 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu May 24, 2018 4:13 pm

lol of course.. so far. ICON way east of 12z.. does a much wide turn for some reason. maybe shear..
84 hours it is stalled south of Mississippi, though ridging is building strong so should not go north.. same timing as NAM just a larger turn.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#760 Postby AdamFirst » Thu May 24, 2018 4:13 pm

18z ICON has trended east. Same pattern as the 12z run - but the storm has a closer approach to Florida and meanders south of Pensacola instead of the Mississippi River Delta.
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