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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#921 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:14 pm

Could it be moving slower because it is intensifying? It is trying to wrap on its NW and W side.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#922 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:15 pm

Is the break up of the core the reason the storms seem to have spread out over the entire state of Fl now rather than just to the south?
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#923 Postby bamajammer4eva » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:16 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:You have to wonder if the drag of the winds coming over the Peninsula along with that ULL to its SW is not causing it to ride on a more NNW course.


I was wondering that as well. For a storm which has supposedly been moving 16 mph for hours now...sure hasn't seemed to move very much imo.


Seems like there was an issue with one of the storms last year where models kept saying it was going to move NW over the gulf but it instead went up the peninsula of Florida and stayed inland almost like Florida pulled it in.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#924 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:17 pm

If you extrapolate a line from where the center was this morning according to NHC over Key Largo to where it is now just west of Marco Island you end up near Pensacola. It better start gaining more longitude or warnings are going to be need further eastward across the FL Panhandle! IMO
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#925 Postby psyclone » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:21 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Is the break up of the core the reason the storms seem to have spread out over the entire state of Fl now rather than just to the south?


Daytime heating has caused the convective activity upstate. Most areas have already had a round or 3 so we're rain cooled and more stable now
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#926 Postby mahmoo » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:23 pm

1900hurricane wrote:It's certainly trying, but the center remains on the south side of the main convective tops and on the west side of the system overall. When looking at water vapor imagery, an upper level low can be seen just of the NW coast of Cuba. This is bringing some southerly shear over Gordon and may keep the system in check, at least for now.

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It looks like that Gordon system and the system still spinning over TX/LA are gearing up to battle each other :P .
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#927 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:25 pm

psyclone wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Is the break up of the core the reason the storms seem to have spread out over the entire state of Fl now rather than just to the south?


Daytime heating has caused the convective activity upstate. Most areas have already had a round or 3 so we're rain cooled and more stable now


Thanks. Im in northern pb county and its just been drizzling all day but now its pouring.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#928 Postby crimi481 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:27 pm

Lots of dry air around it. Not much available to feed in?
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#929 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:29 pm

mahmoo wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:It's certainly trying, but the center remains on the south side of the main convective tops and on the west side of the system overall. When looking at water vapor imagery, an upper level low can be seen just of the NW coast of Cuba. This is bringing some southerly shear over Gordon and may keep the system in check, at least for now.

[i mg]https://i.imgur.com/fSTE47K.gif[/img]

It looks like that Gordon system and the system still spinning over TX/LA/ are gearing up to battle each other :P .


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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#930 Postby KimmieLa » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:31 pm

mahmoo wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:It's certainly trying, but the center remains on the south side of the main convective tops and on the west side of the system overall. When looking at water vapor imagery, an upper level low can be seen just of the NW coast of Cuba. This is bringing some southerly shear over Gordon and may keep the system in check, at least for now.

[im g]https://i.imgur.com/fSTE47K.gif[/img]

It looks like that Gordon system and the system still spinning over TX/LA/ are gearing up to battle each other :P .


I see maybe a ridge pushing westward, and I see the anti-cyclone retrograding westward in the central Gulf giving Gordon a little wiggle room to move westward? Is that a possibility? Not -removed-, just wondering at the dynamics of it all!
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#931 Postby crimi481 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:32 pm

Have some good gusts here in Englewood Fl. Center should soon be just off my coast.
https://www.sfwmd.gov/weather-radar/cur ... conditions
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#932 Postby Big Easy Breeze » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:32 pm

If you notice the ULL to the north of Gordon in the SE is moving west at the same time Gordon is developing. Does this affect Gordon? Or does Gordon remain somewhat a disorganized TS?
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#933 Postby psyclone » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:36 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
psyclone wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Is the break up of the core the reason the storms seem to have spread out over the entire state of Fl now rather than just to the south?


Daytime heating has caused the convective activity upstate. Most areas have already had a round or 3 so we're rain cooled and more stable now


Thanks. Im in northern pb county and its just been drizzling all day but now its pouring.



well you have the benefit (or lack thereof if you were hoping for BBQ weather) of being downwind of very warm water... so it's more than a one and done proposition for you. On my side of the state the wind is off land which is already rain cooled and won't be able to reload today so we're done with the heavy stuff for now. Tropical timing this year was solidly less than ideal. Memorial day weekend was wipeout for us thanks to Alberto and Labor day weekend hosed us yet again.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#934 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:37 pm

Big Easy Breeze wrote:If you notice the ULL to the north of Gordon in the SE is moving west at the same time Gordon is developing. Does this affect Gordon? Or does Gordon remain somewhat a disorganized TS?


The models are forecasting less than 48 hours from landfall so just watch the model consensus now.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#935 Postby SunnyThoughts » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:37 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:If you extrapolate a line from where the center was this morning according to NHC over Key Largo to where it is now just west of Marco Island you end up near Pensacola. It better start gaining more longitude or warnings are going to be need further eastward across the FL Panhandle! IMO


Well we are already under a tropical storm warning here in Pensacola, hurricane watch starts just to our West though...fla/ala line westward. I'm guessing by 5 or 6 pm tonight...maybe the track will be more evident, but who knows.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#936 Postby crimi481 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:38 pm

Sure looks like moving more n.n.w - last few hours
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#937 Postby MississippiWx » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:40 pm

Gordon finally seems to be gaining some space from Florida. The result has been an increase in banding near the center.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#938 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:41 pm

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#939 Postby Frank P » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:41 pm

crimi481 wrote:Sure looks like moving more n.n.w - last few hours


watch this radar loop... its a little north of the NHC forecast track att but not all that much... a few WNW bobbles would put it back or track, conversely a few more NW bobbles would raise some issues of course...

https://www.sfwmd.gov/weather-radar/cur ... conditions
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#940 Postby StormPyrate » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:46 pm

Wonder if this promotes or aggravates the break up of the red tide bloom
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