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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1661 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:03 pm

At some point we should admit to ourselves that NHC advisory intensity is inflated for just about every storm. The NHC is identifying the maximum winds that might be occurring somewhere somehow in that storm.

Reality is that most real world stations are gonna measure 10, 20 or 30 knots less than that advisory intensity. It happens every time.

That’s ok as long as we understand it is occurring. The issue I see is that many weather observers and the public assumes that these winds are occurring over the entire wind field. That’s why everyone thinks they <cringe> “dodged a bullet” every time there’s a landfall.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1662 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:04 pm

Looks like it’s either going in in southern Mobile Co - Bayou Labatre to Grand Bay or so, or it’s going to roll slightly west one last time and find it’s way to Jackson or Harrison county.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Recon

#1663 Postby artist » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:05 pm

URNT15 KWBC 050201
NOAA2 0607A GORDON HDOB 23 20180905
015200 3002N 08826W 6951 03188 0017 +130 +083 332031 032 /// /// 03
015230 3002N 08823W 6958 03170 0000 +135 +079 316032 034 /// /// 03
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015430 3007N 08815W 6958 03153 0005 +115 +098 194013 016 /// /// 03
015500 3008N 08813W 6951 03164 0008 +115 +095 180019 020 /// /// 03
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015730 3009N 08801W 6956 03180 0037 +110 +093 170036 037 /// /// 03
015800 3009N 08758W 6959 03179 0044 +108 +093 166040 042 /// /// 03
015830 3009N 08756W 6956 03185 0056 +101 +086 171046 048 /// /// 03
015900 3009N 08754W 6957 03186 0058 +104 +073 174046 047 /// /// 03
015930 3009N 08752W 6956 03193 0079 +091 +076 174048 049 /// /// 03
020000 3009N 08749W 6938 03213 0078 +093 +089 176044 045 /// /// 03
020030 3009N 08747W 6944 03214 0080 +095 +087 180045 046 /// /// 03
020100 3009N 08744W 6949 03214 0100 +085 +077 176051 052 /// /// 03
020130 3010N 08742W 6952 03212 0095 +088 //// 173049 052 /// /// 05
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1664 Postby beoumont » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:06 pm

Jag95 wrote:
SCUBAdude wrote:I live on the beach here in Gulf Shores. Just got pretty calm right now and I just heard the hurricane hunters fly over. Unless there is another C-130 flying around in this storm.

That link right below yours shows NOAA42 flew right over Gulf Shores a few minutes ago.


Short video below was shot at Destin, FL in 1994 in similar strength T.S. Alberto as WC130H flew the "eye" along the coast. I, too, when I first heard aircraft sounds wondered, "Who the heck is flying around in the center of this storm"



Link: https://youtu.be/4bu4EuT85_c
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1665 Postby MississippiWx » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:07 pm

Steve wrote:Looks like it’s either going in in southern Mobile Co - Grand Bay or so, or it’s going to roll slightly west one last time and find it’s way to Jackson or Harrison county.


Recon just flew through the center again. The center is just south of the Western tip of Dauphin Island. Would have to move due north to not landfall around Pascagoula at this point.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1666 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:10 pm

MississippiWx wrote:
Steve wrote:Looks like it’s either going in in southern Mobile Co - Grand Bay or so, or it’s going to roll slightly west one last time and find it’s way to Jackson or Harrison county.


Recon just flew through the center again. The center is just south of the Western tip of Dauphin Island. Would have to move due north to not landfall around Pascagoula at this point.


I agree. I stated earlier that I thought the center would landfall around Pascagoula or close to there.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1667 Postby Steve » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:12 pm

MississippiWx wrote:
Steve wrote:Looks like it’s either going in in southern Mobile Co - Grand Bay or so, or it’s going to roll slightly west one last time and find it’s way to Jackson or Harrison county.


Recon just flew through the center again. The center is just south of the Western tip of Dauphin Island. Would have to move due north to not landfall around Pascagoula at this point.


I was going off radar. I lived in Dauphin Island for a couple months after Katrina, and I like it down there. But yeah, Jackson County looks legit.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1668 Postby stormhunter7 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:13 pm

See a 91mph Doppler velocity return.. 5 miles SW of Western end of dauphin island.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Recon

#1669 Postby artist » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:14 pm

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URNT12 KWBC 050210
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL072018
A. 05/01:54:08Z
B. 30.10 deg N 088.27 deg W
C. 700 MB 3104 m
D. 1000 mb
E. 95 deg 20 kt
F. NA
G. NA
H. NA
I. NA
J. 313 deg 34 kt
K. 240 deg 7 nm 01:52:38Z
L. NA
M. NA
N. 172 deg 55 kt
O. 082 deg 29 nm 02:01:14Z
P. 14 C / 3061 m
Q. 15 C / 3051 m
R. 7 C / NA
S. 12345 / 7
T. 0.01 / 1 nm
U. NOAA2 0607A GORDON OB 23
MAX FL WIND 63 KT 053 / 18 NM 01:03:41Z
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1670 Postby stormhunter7 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:15 pm

Radar update... Little closer and got a 95mph return.. less than 5 miles from the western tip of island. (I know it's up in alt.)
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1671 Postby drezee » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:16 pm

stormhunter7 wrote:Radar update... Little closer and got a 95mph return.. less than 5 miles from the western tip of island. (I know it's up in alt.)

Drop measured 82mph, so maybe
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Recon

#1672 Postby artist » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:16 pm

URNT15 KWBC 050211
NOAA2 0607A GORDON HDOB 24 20180905
020200 3011N 08740W 6952 03217 0112 +083 +067 172041 043 /// /// 03
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021030 3014N 08740W 6960 03209 0113 +086 +058 165041 042 /// /// 03
021100 3014N 08742W 6963 03202 0108 +085 +073 163044 046 /// /// 03
021130 3014N 08745W 6952 03214 0097 +088 //// 163048 050 /// /// 05
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1673 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:18 pm

61 mph wind gust reported in Pensacola....as per NBC15 Same for Dauphin Island 61 mph gust.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1674 Postby drezee » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:19 pm

Pressure likely 998mb now

Drop 1000mb with 22kt wind
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1675 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:20 pm

My guess landfall will be Pascagoula, but it doesn't matter much since most of the wx is on the NE quadrant with Mobile Bay area seeing the worst of it.

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1676 Postby Florabamaman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:20 pm

WEAR news 3 just reported a 61 mph gust was recorded at NAS Pensacola...also major flooding of hwy 98 in Gulf Breeze.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Recon

#1677 Postby artist » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:20 pm

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1678 Postby bella_may » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:21 pm

Am I crazy or does it look like it’s strengthing
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1679 Postby TheAustinMan » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:22 pm

Gusting to 72 mph just offshore Dauphin Island. https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=dpia1
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Recon

#1680 Postby artist » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:22 pm

UZNT13 KWBC 050203
XXAA 55027 99301 70883 11708 99000 27608 09520 00004 27608 /////
92693 23004 11524 85430 20820 12024 70088 11414 19514 88999 77999
31313 09608 80154
61616 NOAA2 0607A GORDON OB 22
62626 CENTER MBL WND 11023 AEV 33668 DLM WND 13518 999696 WL150 1
0522 087 REL 3012N08825W 015426 SPG 3014N08827W 015918 =
XXBB 55028 99301 70883 11708 00000 27608 11874 20601 22850 20820
33696 11215
21212 00000 09520 11981 10524 22953 11522 33905 12025 44874 12520
55850 12024 66779 16014 77735 19521 88696 19514
31313 09608 80154
61616 NOAA2 0607A GORDON OB 22
62626 CENTER MBL WND 11023 AEV 33668 DLM WND 13518 999696 WL150 1
0522 087 REL 3012N08825W 015426 SPG 3014N08827W 015918 =
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