ATL: BARRY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1221 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:50 am

WISHE is destabilizing the air over the Loop Current.
That'll rotate into the north quad and get convection going in a few hours.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1222 Postby MississippiWx » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:53 am

Did anyone else notice the second plane that was flying at a higher altitude reported 45kt winds at the surface from a dropsonde with a 998mb pressure? This was at 27.3N and 90 W.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1223 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:53 am

The Center Fix from recon just became elongated out and is getting pulled into the stronger circ to the south in the convection.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1224 Postby tolakram » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:55 am

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1225 Postby Ian2401 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:55 am

convection really blowing up now
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1226 Postby SoupBone » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:57 am

When is this thing gonna turn north?
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1227 Postby Puddinhead » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:59 am

Here's a current view out my window showing the more saturated clouds.
http://i65.tinypic.com/vnjo82.jpg[/quote]
I'm having all kinds of trouble identifying that view...Uptown side of Canal looking back toward the Quarter?
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1228 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:00 am

I see 3 vortices rotating around a broad low center. One is just south of Morgan City, another just west of the mouth of the Mississippi, and one north of the convection. Convection just can't seem to build around the east side of the center. That strong squall SE of the center where recon found the 55kt winds has weakened considerably.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1229 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:04 am

Barry reminds me of Cindy in 2017, only this time the convection is on the south and east instead of north and east. I believe Cindy also had similar issues with size, dry air, and shear that led to an extremely lopsided look.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1230 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:05 am

Hmm let's see what's quaking.

1) Stationary blow up in convection with an apparent infeed from the NW as seen on Vis Sat
2) Very cold cloud tops on IR with a symmetrical outflow
3) ADT showing convection moving toward the CoC

I think there is a duck in the backyard.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1231 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:07 am

GCANE wrote:Hmm let's see what's quaking.

1) Stationary blow up in convection with an apparent infeed from the NW as seen on Vis Sat
2) Very cold cloud tops on IR with a symmetrical outflow
3) ADT showing convection moving toward the CoC

I think there is a duck in the backyard.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1662/xtukwq.jpg



Yep, Clear center in the convection with a lot of curved inflow. and the vort RECON flew through is almost completely stretched out. wont be too much longer now.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1232 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:08 am

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1233 Postby Steve » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:10 am

Puddinhead wrote:Here's a current view out my window showing the more saturated clouds.
http://i65.tinypic.com/vnjo82.jpg

I'm having all kinds of trouble identifying that view...Uptown side of Canal looking back toward the Quarter?[/quote]

Yeah - Shell Square (St. Charles Ave. facing side) looking toward Canal Place and Sheraton.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1234 Postby GCANE » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:12 am

Small gravity waves in the cirrus from the overshooting tops.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1235 Postby Puddinhead » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:17 am

Steve wrote:
Puddinhead wrote:Here's a current view out my window showing the more saturated clouds.
http://i65.tinypic.com/vnjo82.jpg

I'm having all kinds of trouble identifying that view...Uptown side of Canal looking back toward the Quarter?


Yeah - Shell Square (St. Charles Ave. facing side) looking toward Canal Place and Sheraton.[/quote]
Thought I identified it right...I'm in Gentilly (about to leave the house) watching typical tropical pre-storm weather: Gusty winds blowing through the pecan tree, sunshine for ten minutes followed by darkening sky and a quick wind-driven shower. Waiting to see what will be in store for the rest of the day.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1236 Postby Steve » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:21 am

Puddinhead wrote:
Steve wrote:
Puddinhead wrote:Here's a current view out my window showing the more saturated clouds.
http://i65.tinypic.com/vnjo82.jpg

I'm having all kinds of trouble identifying that view...Uptown side of Canal looking back toward the Quarter?


Yeah - Shell Square (St. Charles Ave. facing side) looking toward Canal Place and Sheraton.

Thought I identified it right...I'm in Gentilly (about to leave the house) watching typical tropical pre-storm weather: Gusty winds blowing through the pecan tree, sunshine for ten minutes followed by darkening sky and a quick wind-driven shower. Waiting to see what will be in store for the rest of the day.[/quote]

If NAM 3k is right, the heaviest rain would be just west of us. https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 1212&fh=18
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1237 Postby tolakram » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:22 am

Large circulation with a large area of convection on the south side of the circulation. Outflow boundaries all over the east side. That's what I'm seeing. As the big center moves NW I believe, mostly because this is what the models show, that the convection blob will rotate to the east side of the storm. I'm not sure the center will ever be fully covered. Best case for New Orleans would be for the center to go directly over it. Unfortunately just about everything is showing Barry coming ashore closer to Avery Island area.

http://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/?sat=goes-16&z=2&im=12&ts=1&st=0&et=0&speed=130&motion=loop&map=1&lat=0&opacity%5B0%5D=1&hidden%5B0%5D=0&pause=0&slider=-1&hide_controls=0&mouse_draw=0&follow_feature=0&follow_hide=0&s=rammb-slider&sec=conus&p%5B0%5D=band_02&x=4273.73095703125&y=5161.7353515625
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1238 Postby MississippiWx » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:27 am

Barry has organized more this morning than it has in the past 3 days. Still has work to do to become a hurricane, but it's certainly trying.

You may have to click on the image to see the actual gif.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1239 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:37 am

Barry sending some decent squall lines into Panama City. Winds 20-25 gusts to 40mph. Hearing tree branches break, memories of Michael yuck.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1240 Postby Steve » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:37 am

Agreed MSwx.

Looks like either a vortex is slipping south around/near the broad center, or the center under the convection. You can see the spin right in the heaviest concentration. I still think it may get a bit sloppy again before tonight and tomorrow when it should look its best.
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