ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2021 Postby artist » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:03 pm

Praying for the islands
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2022 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:03 pm

galaxy401 wrote:It seems that center reformation to the north yesterday morning was the game changer for Dorian as not only did it find a better environment but it also helped it avoid most of the land.


Thankfully for Puerto Rico that was the big moment but let's hope the other islands get out of this in a good way.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2023 Postby galaxy401 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:04 pm

Looks like heavy rain bands are now starting to set up around the eyewall on radar.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2024 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:06 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Looks like heavy rain bands are now starting to set up around the eyewall on radar.


East side of St. Thomas is getting hammered right now.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2025 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:09 pm

AdamFirst wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:Looks like heavy rain bands are now starting to set up around the eyewall on radar.


East side of St. Thomas is getting hammered right now.


...and lets not forget that they took as big of a hit as PR so this is really bad news for St Thomas.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2026 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:10 pm

Nothing really out there for this not to go to Cat 2.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2027 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:12 pm

Afternoon all,

I was waiting and hoping for the best, but can no longer wait. Will head down to Key Largo to start securing everything, take the boat of the davits and hope for the best being a bit further south. Then take care of things here in Miami, where ever this storm ends up everyone be safe.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2028 Postby ronjon » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:12 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:But i thought august was going to be dead and nothing can survive the eastern Caribbean surrounded by exxxxtreeemely dry air shear will be too much in carribean this time of year.. lol


We are ending August with 3 named storms. Yeah, the North Atlantic basin has awakened from its long summer slumber indeed!!


Ok Aric now you're rubbing salt in some wounds....Master Po said..one must be a humble scientist....
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2029 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:14 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Afternoon all,

I was waiting and hoping for the best, but can no longer wait. Will head down to Key Largo to start securing everything, take the boat of the davits and hope for the best being a bit further south. Then take care of things here in Miami, where ever this storm ends up everyone be safe.


You too. Be very safe out there!
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2030 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:15 pm

The eye on radar has shrunk by half in the last hour.. its deepening faster.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2031 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:18 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:The eye on radar has shrunk by half in the last hour.. its deepening faster.


Saw that too.
Too bad recon left.
Cirrus outflow from those hot towers are obscuring seeing any type of eye.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2032 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:20 pm

ronjon wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:But i thought august was going to be dead and nothing can survive the eastern Caribbean surrounded by exxxxtreeemely dry air shear will be too much in carribean this time of year.. lol


We are ending August with 3 named storms. Yeah, the North Atlantic basin has awakened from its long summer slumber indeed!!



Ok Aric now you're rubbing salt in some wounds....Master Po said..one must be a humble scientist....


Aric ate crow for Barry, we've all been there, even the less knowledgeable. :lol:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2033 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:22 pm

the nhc will have too come south now, 75-100 miles based on that ridge as depicted in the euro...they didnt do much at 11 but they have too much respect for the euro to not adjust accordingly...all interests from the cape to key largo you better prepare for a landfalling major, keys you are in play too...that gfs nonsense from yesterday is a faded memory
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2034 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:24 pm

GCANE wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:The eye on radar has shrunk by half in the last hour.. its deepening faster.


Saw that too.
Too bad recon left.
Cirrus outflow from those hot towers are obscuring seeing any type of eye.


If I didn't know better, looks like a moat on radar.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2035 Postby abajan » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:24 pm

HurricaneEnzo wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:High MSLP environment skews the pressure-wind ratio.

If this were in the Bahamas pressures would be lower.


Exactly some people in here just looking at the higher than normal pressures in the storm and assuming Dorian isn't that strong. You have to look at the environment its embedded in. If it's in an environment where the ambient pressure is higher than normal the storm doesn't need as low a pressure to reach a certain strength.

Exactly. It's just like the 26°C sea surface temperature threshold. Hurricanes can form in colder waters than that If the upper levels are cold enough (as we saw not so many years ago - I don't recall the name of the hurricane). It's all relative. The 26°C thing is just a rule of thumb.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2036 Postby catskillfire51 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:25 pm

GCANE wrote:
GCANE wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:The eye on radar has shrunk by half in the last hour.. its deepening faster.


Saw that too.
Too bad recon left.
Cirrus outflow from those hot towers are obscuring seeing any type of eye.


If I didn't know better, looks like a moat on radar.


A moat? Thats a first for me?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2037 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:25 pm

12z ECMWF might force NHC's hand regarding a decent shift south with the 5pm cone.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2038 Postby jdjaguar » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:26 pm

Just wrapped up initial prep, thinking I was a day ahead of everybody else.

This is NOT THE CASE. (thankfully)

People are taking this threat seriously, and water, batteries are running low or completely out at some locations in the Jax Beach area.

Filled up the gas cans before the lines form tonight/tomorrow.

The problem with Florida is that there really is nowhere to evacuate to, except away from the coast to guard against surge.

Just too many people, and limited roads.

Hoping Dorian is not "Son of Dora", but preparing as if he were.

Stay safe everyone. We should have a clearer indication 24 hours from now of the eventual landfall point.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2039 Postby BYG Jacob » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:26 pm

abajan wrote:
HurricaneEnzo wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:High MSLP environment skews the pressure-wind ratio.

If this were in the Bahamas pressures would be lower.


Exactly some people in here just looking at the higher than normal pressures in the storm and assuming Dorian isn't that strong. You have to look at the environment its embedded in. If it's in an environment where the ambient pressure is higher than normal the storm doesn't need as low a pressure to reach a certain strength.

Exactly. It's just like the 26°C sea surface temperature threshold. Hurricanes can form in colder waters than that If the upper levels are cold enough (as we saw not so many years ago - I don't recall the name of the hurricane). It's all relative. The 26°C thing is just a rule of thumb.

Álex BTW
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#2040 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:27 pm

The EURO is going to have people all the way from SE Texas through the Panhandle puckering, a la Katrina, Andrew, etc. (Disclaimer: I'm not at all saying this will be an event like either, but people will still compare them).
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