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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2821 Postby LarryWx » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:36 pm

12Z Euro: Look out, this may slow down or even stall.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2822 Postby Steve » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:36 pm

Looks like a squeeze play gets it up north after meandering around SE FL. Note the rotation of the Atlantic Ridge behind it. That's strengthening as the trough north of Maine exits out. It doesn't really have anywhere to go but North or NNW along the coast. Could even be shunted westward/northwestward into the SEUS or wait for the next low which is just north of North Dakota at 168 to pull it out.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 912&fh=168
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2823 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:36 pm

but, I don't think this is going to fully make it out, so my recurve confidence is still extremely low.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2824 Postby HDGator » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:37 pm

chris_fit wrote:Wow - Goodbye E Coast of FL if that track pans out - Yikes!!!

Yep, I don't envy the position that the NHC is in for the 5pm forecast.
There's not many good options considering the vast number of people being brought into play with that track.
The major models are threatening the majority of the population on the east coast of Florida
Their earning their pay with this hurricane.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2825 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:37 pm

it is very borderline getting trapped as well.
i mean like tittering .. that trough lifts out as well.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2826 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:37 pm

Ok now. This is odd. The Euro seems to be headed for the Fl straights at 120, then a sharp nnw turn to landfall in Palm Beach at 144.
Where will it be at 168.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2827 Postby sma10 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:37 pm

LarryWx wrote:Skims coast near pompano Beach at 138 and then moves northward at 144 skimming near West Palm. Now going to go back offshore I think


5+ days out and it is literally on the beach. Not sure what kind of statement you can make about this ....

If this is the general path of Dorian you might as well through your hands up because it's entirely not predictable what the sensible weather will be.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2828 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:38 pm

Well that’s what I meant. I guess. :wink:

tolakram wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Okay we all know this track will not pan out. It’s
much more likely Dorian misses Florida completely.


I disagree. My confidence in a recurve just before shore has risen slightly. Everyone harps on the GFS ridge bias and selectively forgets the Euro's left bias.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2829 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:38 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Sigh, this is getting frustrating.

You would think with such a slow down, Dorian would weaken due to upwelling.


I suspect with it moving that slowly there is certainly a chance it will upwell, but with such slow motion could see some very large totals over the Bahamas and S/C Florida.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2830 Postby cjrciadt » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:38 pm

Hold on! A major cane here from Mon thru Thru!!?!? :spam:
I give the Euro a Mulligan on this run!
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2831 Postby chris_fit » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:39 pm

Scary thought, won't happen, but imagine that track ~150 miles to the W when it starts going N - Goodbye Naples, Ft Myers, Tampa
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2832 Postby CronkPSU » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:39 pm

HDGator wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Wow - Goodbye E Coast of FL if that track pans out - Yikes!!!

Yep, I don't envy the position that the NHC is in for the 5pm forecast.
There's not many good options considering the vast number of people being brought into play with that track.
The major models are threatening the majority of the population on the east coast of Florida
Their earning their pay with this hurricane.


probably will nudge south just a bit more but no major changes yet except maybe adding another 12 hours til landfall...they will be looking at the next runs and deciding then if it is a trend
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2833 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:40 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:What the models are keen on, is that this is going to be a powerful hurricane. I am hoping some type of dry air or shear prevents this from strengthening. Stay safe in FL and take the flooding threat seriously. Water is the number one killer in these storms.


AMEN!! I am mortified thinking about the flooding potential Dorian could bring Just insane potential rainfall projections from the GFS
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2834 Postby ronjon » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:40 pm

its a week out folks - definitely won't verify. Throws a wrench in the NHC track guidance.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2835 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:40 pm

Also the ECM ensembles from the 00z also had an increasing number of runs heading to the north and this operational run looks like its doing something similar, but with the addition of that WSW motion and slow down.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2836 Postby LarryWx » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm

Massive rains Jupiter to St Augustine so far as it barely moves near or just offshore FL NE coast.

3rd landfall Jax Beach! Now turned inland.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2837 Postby StPeteMike » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm

chris_fit wrote:Scary thought, won't happen, but imagine that track ~150 miles to the W when it starts going N - Goodbye Naples, Ft Myers, Tampa

There’s still a possibility.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2838 Postby MacTavish » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm

The thing to remember is most of the models show some kind of recurve in the vicinity of Florida. It could happen on the west coast, up the middle of the state, or off the east coast. All things are possible at this point. Dont panic but be prepared.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2839 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Sigh, this is getting frustrating.

You would think with such a slow down, Dorian would weaken due to upwelling.


The computer models have a hard time taking up welling into account.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#2840 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:What the models are keen on, is that this is going to be a powerful hurricane. I am hoping some type of dry air or shear prevents this from strengthening. Stay safe in FL and take the flooding threat seriously. Water is the number one killer in these storms.


AMEN!! I am mortified thinking about the flooding potential Dorian could bring. Just insane potential rainfall projections from the GFS.
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