ATL: DORIAN - Models

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3061 Postby will759227 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:11 pm

I throw up my hands, these models are changing every 6 hours... and then the euro huge change.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3062 Postby La Sirena » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:11 pm

beachman80 wrote:
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beachman80 wrote:Big change in GFS. It is plowing due west with no hint of north movement as it makes landfall. About 50 miles south of 12z landfall. Close to Jupiter.

These model changes are nuts.

It almost seems like the GFS is somewhat following the Euro but the one who’s nailing it is the UK!


Well unlike the Euro it brings it well inland. The question is will it put it back in the Gulf?

That’s certainly one of the million dollar questions! :D Did ICON and UK both send it out to the GOM ?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3063 Postby MetroMike » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:11 pm

Up the spine of the state?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3064 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:13 pm

I keep thinking this can't get any worse
Then GFS stalls it over lake ockeechobe
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3065 Postby KC7NEC » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:14 pm

With the GFS taking the South solution we still don't have any consensus between the major models. A few have followed that South but there are still others that turn early and go North
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3066 Postby MetroMike » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:14 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:I keep thinking this can't get any worse
Then GFS stalls it over lake ockeechobe

I don't see the stall.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3067 Postby will759227 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:14 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3068 Postby USTropics » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:15 pm

Technically the ICON has shown a SW dive over the entirety of the model's runs since Sunday (with a few runs diving SW into Cuba). It was also the first model to pickup on Dorian moving east of PR (12 straight runs).
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3069 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:15 pm

And the GFS has caved oh my SFL...Euro, GFS, Ukmet
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3070 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:15 pm

will759227 wrote:I throw up my hands, these models are changing every 6 hours... and then the euro huge change.


Because the strength and placement of the incoming ridge (for later in the period) is still in question, frustrating I know.

As an aside, I can't help but laugh when normies (people who do not immerse themselves in the weather and models as we do here) lecture me that the world will end according to computer models in twelve soon to be eleven years. I'm like "really, do tell". :roll:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3071 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:16 pm

MetroMike wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:I keep thinking this can't get any worse
Then GFS stalls it over lake ockeechobe

I don't see the stall.

Ok moves it very very slowly
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3072 Postby beachman80 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:16 pm

La Sirena wrote:
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La Sirena wrote:It almost seems like the GFS is somewhat following the Euro but the one who’s nailing it is the UK!


Well unlike the Euro it brings it well inland. The question is will it put it back in the Gulf?

That’s certainly one of the million dollar questions! :D Did ICON and UK both send it out to the GOM ?


Yup they do
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3073 Postby will759227 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:17 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3074 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:18 pm

Almost back in the gulf.

The shortwave is not really there anymore.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3075 Postby johngaltfla » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:19 pm

USTropics wrote:Technically the ICON has shown a SW dive over the entirety of the model's runs since Sunday (with a few runs diving SW into Cuba). It was also the first model to pickup on Dorian moving east of PR (12 straight runs).


ICON and UKMET have been very consistent. I will be impressed if they nail this storm's path this far out and new GFS and Euro do not.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3076 Postby Ritzcraker » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:21 pm

Did the 18z models ingest the upper air data Gulfstream sampled, or do we have to wait for 00z?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3077 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:21 pm

Umm, GFS lost the shortwave. Where did it go???
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3078 Postby TorSkk » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:22 pm

Ritzcraker wrote:Did the 18z models ingest the upper air data Gulfstream sampled, or do we have to wait for 00z?


We have to wait
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3079 Postby sma10 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:22 pm

tolakram wrote:UKMet was the very first model to show the south hook, was it not?


Yes it was. Ironically, its 12z run today was the first run where the dip disappeared. Lol
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3080 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:23 pm

Ritzcraker wrote:Did the 18z models ingest the upper air data Gulfstream sampled, or do we have to wait for 00z?


Im assuming so at least partially. I beleive its automatically as it comes in. So whatever data is there at the tine is used
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