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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3261 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:35 pm

Beyond three to four days the models seem to be a total mess. I've seldom seen such confusion in the medium range. I suppose it is because there is no strong front to pick up the storm, only high pressure to steer it interspaced with some weak upper-level disturbances.

I hope the confusion clears up soon so the track becomes more certain and people in the path can make appropriate preparations.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3262 Postby beachman80 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:36 pm

catskillfire51 wrote:So far 6-18 hrs seems NW


It’s slightly south of previous run
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3263 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:36 pm

pretty much zero change in the synoptics on the 00z from 18z gfs.. meaning most of the data probably made it into the 18z GFS
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3264 Postby catskillfire51 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:38 pm

beachman80 wrote:
catskillfire51 wrote:So far 6-18 hrs seems NW


It’s slightly south of previous run


Yes sorry i was just talking about direction, not really on the straight west run yet
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3265 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:40 pm

catskillfire51 wrote:So far 6-18 hrs seems NW

It’s south.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3266 Postby will759227 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:40 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:pretty much zero change in the synoptics on the 00z from 18z gfs.. meaning most of the data probably made it into the 18z GFS

hmmm nhc claimed the 00zs would have new drop data. guess not?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3267 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:43 pm

will759227 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:pretty much zero change in the synoptics on the 00z from 18z gfs.. meaning most of the data probably made it into the 18z GFS

hmmm nhc claimed the 00zs would have new drop data. guess not?



No just means the data got into the 18z run :)
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3268 Postby beachman80 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:43 pm

Virtually unchanged through 48 hrs on 00z gfs
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3269 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:45 pm

beachman80 wrote:Virtually unchanged through 48 hrs on 00z gfs



except it being about 30 to 50 miles south of the 18z.. Synoptics are similar though.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3270 Postby catskillfire51 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:46 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
beachman80 wrote:Virtually unchanged through 48 hrs on 00z gfs



except it being about 30 to 50 miles south of the 18z.. Synoptics are similar though.


And even more then the 12z
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3271 Postby SouthDadeFish » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:49 pm

The 60-h 00Z GFS forecast has Dorian in almost the same exact spot as the 12Z 72-h EC forecast (valid at 12Z Sunday). Really good agreement through this point.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3272 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:50 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:The 60-h 00Z GFS forecast has Dorian in almost the same exact spot as the 12Z 72-h EC forecast (valid at 12Z Sunday). Really good agreement through this point.



??

its about 50 miles or more to the eSE at 72hours..

EDIT.. nevermind.. you said EC.. lol
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3273 Postby lando » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:51 pm

GFS is due west of WPB and heading straight W if not WSW at hour 78
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3274 Postby catskillfire51 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:52 pm

Ridge looks stronger this run or is it me
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3275 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:52 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
SouthDadeFish wrote:The 60-h 00Z GFS forecast has Dorian in almost the same exact spot as the 12Z 72-h EC forecast (valid at 12Z Sunday). Really good agreement through this point.



??

its about 50 miles or more to the eSE at 72hours..

EDIT.. nevermind.. you said EC.. lol


And every minor movement further South is just more trouble in the long run.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3276 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:53 pm

catskillfire51 wrote:Ridge looks stronger this run or is it me


yes the 591 ridge is farther west. and with a little thumb ridge like the Euro.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3277 Postby bamajammer4eva » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:54 pm

Ridge is stronger at 78hr

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3278 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:54 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
catskillfire51 wrote:Ridge looks stronger this run or is it me


yes the 591 ridge is farther west. and with a little thumb ridge like the Euro.


Does the model have the mysterious trough that should be influencing the weakness in the future???
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3279 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:56 pm

Blinhart wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
catskillfire51 wrote:Ridge looks stronger this run or is it me


yes the 591 ridge is farther west. and with a little thumb ridge like the Euro.


Does the model have the mysterious trough that should be influencing the weakness in the future???


yes but slightly less amplified. pretty zonal over the ohio valley.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3280 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:57 pm

at 90 hours the ridging from the plains is expanding east much more than the 18z. no north on this run.. and the 300mb flow is also present.. wsw to sw from the gfs coming ?
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