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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3521 Postby Highteeld » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:08 am

12% chance of a cat 5 in 36 hours

SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 24% is 4.7 times climatological mean ( 5.2%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 29% is 2.6 times climatological mean (10.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 24% is 3.5 times climatological mean ( 6.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 17% is 4.5 times climatological mean ( 3.8%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 14% is 5.6 times climatological mean ( 2.4%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 12% is 2.8 times climatological mean ( 4.5%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 4.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 0% is 0.0 times climatological mean ( 5.4%)
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3522 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:14 am

seeking a map with the latest operational model spaghetti plots on it, not all the ensembles too that make it almost impossible to even see a line. lol
I want one with euro, gfs, ukmet, hwrf, cmc, hmon, icon, fsu. Anyone has something close to that?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3523 Postby Blinhart » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:17 am

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:seeking a map with the latest operational model spaghetti plots on it, not all the ensembles too that make it almost impossible to even see a line. lol
I want one with euro, gfs, ukmet, hwrf, cmc, hmon, icon, fsu. Anyone has something close to that?


https://spaghettimodels.com/

Should be able to find it here.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3524 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:19 am

12Z NAM a little more north and faster through 51 hours
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3525 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:19 am

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3526 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:20 am

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Probably a slight bump north in the 11am cone.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3527 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:21 am

There is a consensus between the 0z Euro and 06z GFS at 72-96 hr forecast point, which is for Dorian to be near Grand Bahama Island Monday morning and about 10-30 miles east of Jupiter Inlet Monday evening.
After Monday night's forecasted position that's where they move apart with the GFS keep moving it WNW at a slow but steady pace towards east Tampa before slowing down while the Euro slower towards Orlando.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3528 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:21 am

they will keep it the same
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3529 Postby jfk08c » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:25 am

Eye has definitely begun forming north of the model consensus. Should shift most models north for the next set of runs. I suspect a few more replacement cycles that make it all the more difficult to pinpoint a landfall
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3530 Postby Canelaw99 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:27 am

chris_fit wrote:
tolakram wrote:Euro 6Z a little north, a little faster, and weaker. 93.3 kts vs 80.0 kts <- corrected and these numbers are all over the place, not reliable IMO.


06z Euro is right off the coast of Jupiter crawling WWNW - no S component throughout the track this time


Is there a graphic handy for this one?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3531 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:29 am

Canelaw99 wrote:
chris_fit wrote:
tolakram wrote:Euro 6Z a little north, a little faster, and weaker. 93.3 kts vs 80.0 kts <- corrected and these numbers are all over the place, not reliable IMO.


06z Euro is right off the coast of Jupiter crawling WWNW - no S component throughout the track this time


Is there a graphic handy for this one?


Not for free, no. Look for Ryan Maue's tweets as he sometimes posts graphics.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3532 Postby CourierPR » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:31 am

jfk08c wrote:Eye has definitely begun forming north of the model consensus. Should shift most models north for the next set of runs. I suspect a few more replacement cycles that make it all the more difficult to pinpoint a landfall


Where was the eye progged to be? There is always that possibility of a WSW dip later that would put it in the original projected position.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3533 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:34 am

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3534 Postby jfk08c » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:35 am

CourierPR wrote:
jfk08c wrote:Eye has definitely begun forming north of the model consensus. Should shift most models north for the next set of runs. I suspect a few more replacement cycles that make it all the more difficult to pinpoint a landfall


Where was the eye progged to be? There is always that possibility of a WSW dip later that would put it in the original projected position.


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The general consensus seemed to be about a half a degree in latitude more south on the 12z runs. Seems to be more in line with the COTI as far as location
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3535 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:37 am

Eric blake on twitter...

Good stuff. I was struggling explaining on the fly why stronger was related to stronger. Of course, if all your ensemble members are 990-1000 and it is almost a MH, could be some issues
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3536 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:39 am

Here comes your NAM as usual lol

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3537 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:40 am

SFLcane wrote:Eric blake on twitter...

Good stuff. I was struggling explaining on the fly why stronger was related to stronger. Of course, if all your ensemble members are 990-1000 and it is almost a MH, could be some issues


yep.. the euro seems to have a problem with this sometimes. hopefully the 12z it will initialize correctly now that it is stronger.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3538 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:41 am

supercane4867 wrote:Here comes your NAM as usual lol

https://i.imgur.com/WvsNRN0.png

Ok I know I don’t see an 8 there
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3539 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:41 am

lol the NAM does a sw turn then SE ! in the bahamas..

looks like a big cyclonic loop..

luckily its the NAM lol
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3540 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:42 am

Wasn't it said a few days ago that a stronger/faster storm was more likely to take a more southern/western route due to ridging influence? It would begin appearing on the right side of the cone, but would end up on the left side. Did any of the models guess at the current pressure at this time and location?
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