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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3721 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:36 am

Do we have a definition on the word “trend” I am curious? The UK for example for days and days has shown a more west solution and the 1 time it shifts east it joins this “trend” or more north up the FL east coast hits. Also what are the factors in play for causing this robust shift?


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3722 Postby chris_fit » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:37 am

Canadian also agrees with GFS, GFS Legacy, and UKMET...

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3723 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:37 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:Do we have a definition on the word “trend” I am curious? The UK for example for days and days has shown a more west solution and the 1 time it shifts east it joins this “trend” or more north up the FL east coast hits. Also what are the factors in play for causing this robust shift?


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Usually a trend is if we see something over repeated model runs. I'd call this a shift, not really a trend. Granted, small shifts are going to make a huge ton of difference with who's going to see the worst impacts.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3724 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:38 am

Not far from completely missing Florida all together :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3725 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:38 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:Do we have a definition on the word “trend” I am curious? The UK for example for days and days has shown a more west solution and the 1 time it shifts east it joins this “trend” or more north up the FL east coast hits. Also what are the factors in play for causing this robust shift?



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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3726 Postby caneman » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:38 am

Ukmet this far has been spot on with Dorian. The change isnt that dramatic when you consider just Florida affects, its more dramatic down the line. Every single model has had swing with Dorian save for maybe the Icon
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3727 Postby hohnywx » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:39 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:Do we have a definition on the word “trend” I am curious? The UK for example for days and days has shown a more west solution and the 1 time it shifts east it joins this “trend” or more north up the FL east coast hits. Also what are the factors in play for causing this robust shift?

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This was not a trend. If the models continue this at 18z and 0z, then there was a trend today towards a central FL landfall.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3728 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:39 am

Thoughts on what the Euro will do? Runs in 1 hour.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3729 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:40 am

Florida is going to take the brunt it would appear but it's looking more like I might get a decent event up here in Eastern NC as well. People still recovering from Flo last year if it comes through hopefully it does so quickly. Thoughts out to all of those in Florida though as this could be a catastrophic event for them. :flag:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3730 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:40 am

gatorcane wrote:Thoughts on what the Euro will do? Runs in 1 hour.


Likely further north, more in line with the GFS/UKMET/CMC. The ECMWF almost always follows suit when that many models shift IMO.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3731 Postby chris_fit » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:41 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Thoughts on what the Euro will do? Runs in 1 hour.


Likely further north, more in line with the GFS/UKMET/CMC. The ECMWF almost always follows suit when that many models shift IMO.



Agree - More N / E
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3732 Postby crownweather » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:41 am

gatorcane wrote:Thoughts on what the Euro will do? Runs in 1 hour.


At this point, I'm ready for anything with the Euro. Our luck is that it switches back to a track that takes it into the Gulf after going over S Florida. :wink:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3733 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:42 am

gatorcane wrote:Thoughts on what the Euro will do? Runs in 1 hour.

It trends further east offshore some.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3734 Postby MacTavish » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:43 am

so 12z UKMET, GFS, CMC, and GFS legacy All showing similar tracks north of Jupiter and then up the coastline.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3735 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:43 am

beachman80 wrote:The big shock so far is the UKMET. That is a monster change. Like a 300-500 mile shift east. That’s unreal.


Basically just caved to the consensus. Still in line with all other models and NHC track now.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3736 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:43 am

I am going with the Euro shifting NE more in line with the other models.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3737 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:44 am

Models tend to underestimate the ridge, still think it could shift left/west given what happened with Irma. That said, I pray it goes out to sea.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3738 Postby caneman » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:44 am

I dont recall models struggling so badly with a storm? Anyhow else? The windshield wiper effect is insane. Just wild swings
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3739 Postby Blinhart » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:44 am

gatorcane wrote:Thoughts on what the Euro will do? Runs in 1 hour.


Just to mess with everyone, it will decide to go with the ICON and go into Miami/Dade and into the GoM.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#3740 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:45 am

gatorcane wrote:Not far from completely missing Florida all together :uarrow:


Close, the eyewall still smashes east coast. Bigger threat for Carolinas from the 12z suite so far as well.

Good trend for Florida, especially west Florida on todays 12z runs so far. I think the ECM may keep it out to sea this time round based on the trend and what its ensemble members tried to do on the 00z.
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