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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4321 Postby rdcrds » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:01 pm

Makes no sense all those U.K.met models going the opposite again.


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4322 Postby catskillfire51 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:06 pm

rdcrds wrote:Makes no sense all those U.K.met models going the opposite again.


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Same thing people were saying when ukmet had it missing PR, but it verified. It's hard to point out exactly what one model sees that another doesn't.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4323 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:07 pm

The UKMET ensembles look a lot different than the European ensembles.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4324 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:10 pm

0z NAM is a tick faster and further northwest of the 18z run.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4325 Postby beachman80 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:11 pm



This is great news. Looking better and better for us here in FL
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4326 Postby Blinhart » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:14 pm

MrJames wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Can somebody post the 12Z UKMET ensembles? Levi showed them and I was surprised how many were into SE Florida.


12Z UKMet Ensembles
https://i.imgur.com/Rrakajc.png


One into Vermillion Bay, and quite a few into the panhandle.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4327 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:17 pm

0z NAM has much more of a trough in the 250mb flow over the U.S swooping down then it did during the 18z run.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4328 Postby southerngale » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:18 pm

This was posted in the Discussion thread. A great explanation of some of the models and the setup.

gatorcane wrote:New video from Levi. A must watch. He explains how much uncertainty there is here. He definitely is not taking South Florida off the table. The UKMET ensembles he posted are really interesting. Seems most are into SE Florida.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4329 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:18 pm

TheProfessor wrote:0z NAM has much more of a trough in the 250mb flow over the U.S swooping down then it did during the 18z run.


yeah its odd. it also started with a much stronger ridge than the 18z.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4330 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:19 pm

Blinhart wrote:
MrJames wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Can somebody post the 12Z UKMET ensembles? Levi showed them and I was surprised how many were into SE Florida.


12Z UKMet Ensembles
https://i.imgur.com/Rrakajc.png


One into Vermillion Bay, and quite a few into the panhandle.


UKMET Ensembles were horrible with Barry. Most were pointed at TX for several runs and we know how that turned out.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4331 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:19 pm

No one is out of the woods yet. They don't call it the 'windshield wiper' effect for nothing. If the next few model runs keep it OTS they might be onto something but we have to wait and see.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4332 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:20 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4333 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:31 pm

sma10 wrote:Levi Cowan's video on the main tropicaltidbits.com website is ABSOLUTE required viewing for anyone following this storm. It's a mix of hard science and common sense.


Very good video indeed.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4334 Postby Bocadude85 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:34 pm

0z NAM stalls Dorian on the Palm Beach/Martin County coast and the eyewall is just pounding the costal areas
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4335 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:34 pm

0z NAM have a very short wsw movement before turning wnw at hour 60. I have to imagine that the much deeper 250mb trough is keeping the 250mb high in the Gulf at bay, allowing the storm to move more northward.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4336 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:34 pm

00Z NAM barely moving Dorian west over Jupiter/ West Palm Beach:

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4337 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:35 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:0z NAM stalls Dorian on the Palm Beach/Martin County coast and the eyewall is just pounding the costal areas


Yeah, that's a decent NW shift from the past few runs which had it meandering in the Bahamas. Although, now it may be meandering just off the Florida coast.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4338 Postby beachman80 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:35 pm

Two reasons to keep an eye on the models tonight...the UKMET ensembles and the 18z Euro which stalled out the storm completely in GB.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4339 Postby ronjon » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:37 pm

Subtle shifts in the atmosphere can cause a track to swing 50 miles one way or the other. Looking at the peninsula and the way its shaped and the angle of approach we just don't have the tools or the science to narrow it down 4-5 days away. Levi Cowan has an excellent video on the factors influencing steering and how subtle changes resulted in models clustering on the west coast yesterday but resulted more east coast from today's model runs.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4340 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:40 pm

How 00Z NAM ends. Has Dorian creeping due west:

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