ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4761 Postby EquusStorm » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:00 pm

I would like to see pressures <935 or so before being confident in cat 5 winds at the surface but wind/pressure relationships aren't always spot on. We'll see.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4762 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:02 pm

It's getting there. Trying to push for DT7.0

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4763 Postby JtSmarts » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:04 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4764 Postby pcolaman » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:05 pm

Just heard some of the evaluation orders were recended from one county . OMG there crazy for that :double:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4765 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:05 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Still no signs of EWR on the new microwave pass. I'm quite surprised that it can hold such intense inner core for this long

https://i.imgur.com/yvRKDuy.jpg


I'm surprised it has such high winds despite the core looking like that. Makes one wonder how really under estimated EPAC hurricanes and WPAC typhoons are.

Note: please ignore my psot and keep the discussion about Dorian and let's not have a war about Typhoons and recon etc lol.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4766 Postby caneseddy » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:09 pm

pcolaman wrote:Just heard some of the evaluation orders were recended from one county . OMG there crazy for that :double:


Martin County. They were going to issue the order tomorrow but they rescinded them this evening because of the new forecast track
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4767 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:09 pm

155 knots WPAC

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135 knots (ish) Atlantic

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4768 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:10 pm

SFMR

148 knots
(~ 170.3 mph)

I don't see how this doesn't justify at least 135 knots.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4769 Postby Hammy » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:11 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:SFMR

148 knots
(~ 170.3 mph)

I don't see how this doesn't justify at least 135 knots.


That whole eyewall set was flagged.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4770 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:12 pm

Hammy wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:SFMR

148 knots
(~ 170.3 mph)

I don't see how this doesn't justify at least 135 knots.


That whole eyewall set was flagged.

Only 1 was

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4771 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:13 pm

Those SFMR winds are off the charts...It's really hard to convince me that they don't matter at all. I hope an in-depth post season analysis can explain this. :roll:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4772 Postby MetroMike » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:13 pm

JtSmarts wrote:Latest Video From Levi Cowan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhOmkDxmcOY


He has a great explanation of the G4 mission and the ridge that was slightly stronger that was ingested into the GFS 18z
data.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4773 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:14 pm

Hammy wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:SFMR

148 knots
(~ 170.3 mph)

I don't see how this doesn't justify at least 135 knots.


That whole eyewall set was flagged.


Doesn't show up as flagged on the Tropicalatlantic site.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4774 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:15 pm

Even a blend of 90% and raw SFMR would support 140 now...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4775 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:16 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Even a blend of 90% and raw SFMR would support 140 now...

Special NHC update like yesterday?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4776 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:18 pm

AF recon's vortex message from the first pass:

459
URNT12 KNHC 312357
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL052019
A. 31/23:22:10Z
B. 26.19 deg N 074.61 deg W
C. 700 mb 2577 m
D. 941 mb
E. 150 deg 8 kt
F. CLOSED
G. C14
H. 143 kt
I. 328 deg 8 nm 23:19:00Z
J. 061 deg 144 kt
K. 328 deg 8 nm 23:19:00Z
L. 120 kt
M. 143 deg 10 nm 23:25:00Z
N. 237 deg 120 kt
O. 145 deg 9 nm 23:24:30Z
P. 14 C / 2443 m
Q. 19 C / 2436 m
R. 17 C / NA
S. 1234 / 07
T. 0.02 / 1 nm
U. AF308 2505A DORIAN OB 09
MAX FL WIND 144 KT 328 / 8 NM 23:19:00Z
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4777 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:18 pm

Highteeld wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:Even a blend of 90% and raw SFMR would support 140 now...

Special NHC update like yesterday?


There's no need given it's just a 10 knot increase IMO.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4778 Postby TorSkk » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:20 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Highteeld wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:Even a blend of 90% and raw SFMR would support 140 now...

Special NHC update like yesterday?


There's no need given it's just a 10 knot increase IMO.


Yesterday's special update was a 5 knot increase
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4779 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:21 pm

Classic look for a marginal CAT5. Resembles many 135kt storms in the EPAC

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4780 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:21 pm

Perhaps it's the categorical increase that the NHC justify special update off of
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