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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4941 Postby mutley » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:22 pm

BobHarlem wrote:
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PandaCitrus wrote:18z ICON German Global Model has Dorian landfalling in Ft. Lauderdale after a slow due west.


What does that model see so differently?


More influence from the low to the west. You can go all the back to 12z Tuesday before it gets wildly off from where Dorian is now.


Ah, in the gulf you mean. I see. Thanks.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4942 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:26 pm

MrJames wrote:12z UKM close up

https://i.imgur.com/ybNXoXm.png


How strong are those ensembles showing Dorian?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4943 Postby mutley » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:28 pm

gatorcane wrote:18Z ICON has barely budged from its prior 12Z solution and would be catastrophic for metro SE Florida as it barely moves it up the coastline:

https://i.postimg.cc/nhFHGn3J/icon-mslp-wind-seus-22.png


This new german ICON model has two possible destinies. Greatness, or back to the model farm for more training, with it's head held low.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4944 Postby Ian2401 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:32 pm

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gatorcane wrote:18Z ICON has barely budged from its prior 12Z solution and would be catastrophic for metro SE Florida as it barely moves it up the coastline:

https://i.postimg.cc/nhFHGn3J/icon-mslp-wind-seus-22.png


This new german ICON model has two possible destinies. Greatness, or back to the model farm for more training, with it's head held low.

its consistent ill give it that. something the other models cant say
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4945 Postby Ian2401 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:33 pm

18z GFS running. slightly faster at 6hr
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4946 Postby brghteys1216 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:36 pm

For what it’s worth, ICON is showing that SW dip the UKMET models do.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4947 Postby sma10 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:36 pm

Ian2401 wrote:
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gatorcane wrote:18Z ICON has barely budged from its prior 12Z solution and would be catastrophic for metro SE Florida as it barely moves it up the coastline:

https://i.postimg.cc/nhFHGn3J/icon-mslp-wind-seus-22.png


This new german ICON model has two possible destinies. Greatness, or back to the model farm for more training, with it's head held low.

its consistent ill give it that. something the other models cant say


And also, because tensions are so heightened due to the effect on coastal residents, the understandable mood is that ICON's position is some kind of kooky, crazy outlier. It's not really. For a 72 hr position, it's left yes, but not outrageously so.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4948 Postby Ian2401 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:38 pm

sma10 wrote:
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mutley wrote:
This new german ICON model has two possible destinies. Greatness, or back to the model farm for more training, with it's head held low.

its consistent ill give it that. something the other models cant say


And also, because tensions are so heightened due to the effect on coastal residents, the understandable mood is that ICON's position is some kind of kooky, crazy outlier. It's not really. For a 72 hr position, it's left yes, but not outrageously so.

that and its got support from the UKMET too. dont think they will verify but like you said its not an outrageous solution.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4949 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:39 pm

On the 18Z GFS, ridging looks a bit stronger and the trough is a tad slower. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a small shift west here.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4950 Postby Ian2401 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:40 pm

gfs has same latitude but faster forward speed. also looks like the ridge is a touch stronger
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4951 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:41 pm

Ian2401 wrote:
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Ian2401 wrote:its consistent ill give it that. something the other models cant say


And also, because tensions are so heightened due to the effect on coastal residents, the understandable mood is that ICON's position is some kind of kooky, crazy outlier. It's not really. For a 72 hr position, it's left yes, but not outrageously so.

that and its got support from the UKMET too. dont think they will verify but like you said its not an outrageous solution.
We have seem ridges underestimated for years, we shouldn't discount its solution.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4952 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:41 pm

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18z GFS...Trend
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4953 Postby StPeteMike » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:41 pm

It’s Irma all over again.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4954 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:43 pm

Actually, a bit more ridging on the 18Z GFS through 42 hours. This might be a coastal scraper for North Florida/Georgia
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4955 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:44 pm

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18z GFS... Trend
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4956 Postby chaser1 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:45 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:
PandaCitrus wrote:18z ICON German Global Model has Dorian landfalling in Ft. Lauderdale after a slow due west.

I would love for someone to compare the runs of the GICON (German ICON) to what the storm has been doing. It has hardly waivered from its track this whole time.[/qu

0Z Aug 30 ICON run showed a Ft. Lauderdale landfall at 120 hr's. Same model run took the storm to Tampa, and to Jacksonville from there. 12Z ICON model run more or less did the same. 18Z ICON run did the same (at least to Tampa due to being cut off at 120 hr. for this run). Seems to me that the issue with the ICON runs up to that point, were that it was too fast (moving the storm about 24 hours to the coastline quicker then other models).
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4957 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:46 pm

StPeteMike wrote:It’s Irma all over again.



Ukmet nailed Irma 4 days before hand...all the other models had a matthew and middle of florida consensus

Hope its wrong
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4958 Postby mutley » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:47 pm

Ian2401 wrote:
sma10 wrote:
Ian2401 wrote:its consistent ill give it that. something the other models cant say


And also, because tensions are so heightened due to the effect on coastal residents, the understandable mood is that ICON's position is some kind of kooky, crazy outlier. It's not really. For a 72 hr position, it's left yes, but not outrageously so.

that and its got support from the UKMET too. dont think they will verify but like you said its not an outrageous solution.


I honestly don't think they will verify either, based on all I see. But if they do, it will be shocking to many. We will see. New royalty in the making (UKMET and ICON) or flash in the pan dunderheads. LOL.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4959 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:48 pm

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18z GFS... Says heck with the stall scenario IMO... Way faster than NHC track
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#4960 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:49 pm

GFS trending a stronger ridge building back north of Dorian around hour 54. If this gets much stronger, I expect to see more members making landfall.
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