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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#521 Postby euro6208 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:52 am

WDPN31 PGTW 080900
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR SUPER TYPHOON 20W (HAGIBIS) WARNING NR
013//
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1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
SUPER TYPHOON 20W (HAGIBIS), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 274 NM NORTH-
NORTHWEST OF ANDERSEN AFB, HAS TRACKED NORTHWESTWARD AT 13 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY
(MSI) DEPICTS SPIRAL CONVECTIVE BANDS WRAPPING INTO A TIGHT, 5 NM
DIAMETER PINHOLE EYE AND A DEFINED MOAT BETWEEN THE PRIMARY EYEWALL
AND THE SECONDARY EYEWALL. THE INITIAL INTENSITY ESTIMATE REMAINS
135 KTS BASED ON THE DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY (CI) ESTIMATES OF T7.0
(140 KTS) FROM PGTW AND RJTD AND T6.5 (127 KTS) FROM KNES. THE
AUTOMATED DVORAK TECHNIQUE ESTIMATE AT 080540Z IS LOWER, AT T6.2
(120 KTS). WIND RADII WERE ADJUSTED USING A 080023Z METOP-C ASCAT
PASS. THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN UNDERGOING AN EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE
(ERC), WITH AN ERODING PRIMARY EYEWALL AND SURROUNDING SECONDARY
EYEWALL APPARENT IN ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY AND A
080325Z AMSR-2 89GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE. UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES
SUSTAINED STRONG RADIAL OUTFLOW, ENHANCED TOWARDS THE EAST AND
SOUTH. TO THE NORTH OF THE SYSTEM, THERE IS AN AREA OF DRY AIR WITH
HIGH VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS), INHIBITING DEVELOPMENT OF A STRONG
POLEWARD OUTFLOW CHANNEL. STY 20W REMAINS IN A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT
CHARACTERIZED BY LOW (10-15 KTS) VWS AND WARM (29-31 CELSIUS) SEA
SURFACE TEMPERATURES (SST). STY 20W HAS TURNED TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST,
TRACKING ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY OF A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR)
TO THE NORTHEAST.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY FROM
THE LAST PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
B. AFTER TAU 24, A PASSING MIDLATITUDE TROUGH TO THE NORTH WILL
CAUSE THE STR TO RE-ORIENT, ALLOWING STY 20W TO SHIFT TO A MORE
NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD TRACK AS IT ROUNDS THE RIDGE AXIS. THE
ENVIRONMENT IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN FAVORABLE THROUGH TAU 72 WITH LOW
VWS, HIGH SST, AND GOOD UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY
FORECAST REFLECTS THE POSSIBILITY OF SLIGHT RE-INTENSIFICATION AS
THE ERC COMPLETES AND THE NEW, BROADER PRIMARY EYEWALL CONTRACTS,
AND IS STILL ABOVE THE MULTI-MODEL INTENSITY CONSENSUS. AFTERWARDS,
GRADUAL WEAKENING IS EXPECTED AS THE OUTFLOW BEGINS TO BE DISRUPTED
TO THE NORTHWEST DUE TO INTERACTION WITH AN APPROACHING TROUGH. GFS
AND THE GFS ENSEMBLE ARE THE EASTERNMOST OUTLIERS, DEPICTING A
SOONER RECURVE AND WEAKER STR, THE UKMET SOLUTION IS THE WESTERNMOST
OUTLIER, AND THE ECMWF SOLUTION IS IN LINE WITH BUT SLIGHTLY AHEAD
OF THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS. THIS PORTION OF THE JTWC TRACK
FORECAST IS PLACED CLOSE TO THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS WITH GOOD
CONFIDENCE.
C. IN THE EXTENDED PERIOD, A SHORTWAVE TROUGH OVER JAPAN WILL
MOVE THROUGH THE AREA, AGAIN ERODING THE STR AND ALLOWING STY 20W TO
RECURVE AFTER TAU 72. THE SYSTEM WILL SLOWLY WEAKEN IN RESPONSE TO
INCREASED VWS ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPROACHING TROUGH, OFFSETTING THE
OTHERWISE FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT. AT TAU 120, THE SYSTEM IS FORECAST
TO BEGIN INTERACTING WITH THE BAROCLINIC ZONE; OUTFLOW WILL
DIMINISH, VWS WILL INCREASE FURTHER, AND THE SYSTEM WILL ACCELERATE
TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST AND BEGIN EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION. CROSS-
TRACK AGREEMENT IS GOOD, WITH APPROXIMATELY 175 NM OF SPREAD.
HOWEVER, THE TIMING OF THE RECURVE AND EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION VARY
BETWEEN MODELS. ALONG TRACK SPREAD IS 730 NM AT TAU 120, WITH UKMET
AND GALWEM BEING THE SLOWEST MODELS, WEST OF CONSENSUS AND BRINGING
THE SYSTEM OVER HONSHU, ECMWF JUST SKIRTING THE HONSHU COASTLINE AND
IN LINE WITH AND SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF CONSENSUS, AND GFS AND JGSM
SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER THAN AND EAST OF THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS. DUE
TO THE VARIATION IN THE TIMING OF THE RECURVATURE AND ALONG-TRACK
SPEEDS, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THIS PORTION OF THE JTWC FORECAST
TRACK.//
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#522 Postby euro6208 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:53 am

All warnings and watches cancelled.
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#523 Postby euro6208 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:58 am

Say goodbye to the pinhole.

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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#524 Postby mrbagyo » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:07 am

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It's done, Hagibis will be a Cat 5 again in no time
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#525 Postby euro6208 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:41 am

I don't know if it is important but EURO has some massive strengthening in the next 48 hours. From 955 mb to 919 mb.

Could become a reality as the EWRC is almost complete.
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#526 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:04 am

????? Not sure how JTWC got LG. Looks easily embedded in W to me (DT 6.5).

TPPN10 PGTW 081152

A. SUPER TYPHOON 20W (HAGIBIS)

B. 08/1130Z

C. 18.52N

D. 141.69E

E. THREE/HMWRI8

F. T6.0/6.5/W1.0/24HRS STT: S0.0/03HRS

G. IR/EIR

H. REMARKS: 09A/PBO RAGGED EYE/ANMTN. DG EYE SURROUNDED BY LG
YIELDS AN E# OF 5.0. ADDED 0.5 EYE ADJUSTMENT FOR CMG, AND
ADDED 0.5 FOR BF, TO YIELD A DT OF 6.0.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS: NONE


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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#527 Postby Highteeld » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:23 am

1900hurricane wrote:????? Not sure how JTWC got LG. Looks easily embedded in W to me (DT 6.5).

TPPN10 PGTW 081152

A. SUPER TYPHOON 20W (HAGIBIS)

B. 08/1130Z

C. 18.52N

D. 141.69E

E. THREE/HMWRI8

F. T6.0/6.5/W1.0/24HRS STT: S0.0/03HRS

G. IR/EIR

H. REMARKS: 09A/PBO RAGGED EYE/ANMTN. DG EYE SURROUNDED BY LG
YIELDS AN E# OF 5.0. ADDED 0.5 EYE ADJUSTMENT FOR CMG, AND
ADDED 0.5 FOR BF, TO YIELD A DT OF 6.0.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS: NONE


STIGSSON


https://i.imgur.com/YxMfISu.png


Pushing 7.5 right now TBH

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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#528 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:32 am

Yep, starting to see increasing subsidence in the eye around the old inner eyewall in the WV bands. Here's band 10.

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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#529 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:50 am

SSTs didn't change much from its previous track, at most 1 degree less, it's like Hagibis didn't even use it.
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#530 Postby Nancy Smar » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:09 am

CURRENT ESTIMATE
Date (mmddhhmm): 10081203
SATCON: MSLP = 908 hPa MSW = 150 knots
SATCON Member Consensus: 142.0 knots
Pressure -> Wind Using SATCON MSLP: 142 knots
Distance to Outer Closed Isobar Used is 225 nm
Eye Size Correction Used is 5.9 knots Source: IR
CIMSS/NESDIS-USAF/NRL AMSU TC Intensity Estimation:
SUPER TYPHOON 20W
Tuesday 08oct19 Time: 1203 UTC
Latitude: 18.50 Longitude: 141.49
Storm position corresponds to AMSU-A FOV 23 [1<--->30]
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| Estimated MSLP: 897 hPa
| Estimated Maximum Sustained Wind: 156 kts
| Estimate Confidence: Good ( +/- 10mb +/- 12kts )
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Channel 8 (~150 hPa) Tb Anomaly: 6.87
Channel 7 (~250 hPa) Tb Anomaly: 6.27
RMW: 28 km
RMW Source is: MW
Environmental Pressure: 1003
Satellite: NOAA-90
ATCF data for Month: 10 Day: 08 Time (UTC): 0600
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#531 Postby Highteeld » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:10 am

Nancy Smar wrote:CURRENT ESTIMATE
Date (mmddhhmm): 10081203
SATCON: MSLP = 908 hPa MSW = 150 knots
SATCON Member Consensus: 142.0 knots
Pressure -> Wind Using SATCON MSLP: 142 knots
Distance to Outer Closed Isobar Used is 225 nm
Eye Size Correction Used is 5.9 knots Source: IR
CIMSS/NESDIS-USAF/NRL AMSU TC Intensity Estimation:
SUPER TYPHOON 20W
Tuesday 08oct19 Time: 1203 UTC
Latitude: 18.50 Longitude: 141.49
Storm position corresponds to AMSU-A FOV 23 [1<--->30]
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| Estimated MSLP: 897 hPa
| Estimated Maximum Sustained Wind: 156 kts
| Estimate Confidence: Good ( +/- 10mb +/- 12kts )
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Channel 8 (~150 hPa) Tb Anomaly: 6.87
Channel 7 (~250 hPa) Tb Anomaly: 6.27
RMW: 28 km
RMW Source is: MW
Environmental Pressure: 1003
Satellite: NOAA-90
ATCF data for Month: 10 Day: 08 Time (UTC): 0600


RMW when it was like 7 km would have been an interesting estimate... probably lacks the resolution to do so?
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#532 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:16 am

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2019OCT08 134000 6.8 916.0 134.8 6.8 7.2 7.2 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 8.86 -78.23 EYE 14 IR 59.5 18.71 -141.70 ARCHER HIM-8 21.9
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#533 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:21 am

CIMSS AMSU: 897 hPa 156 knots Bias Corr: 0 (MW) Date: 10081203
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#534 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:22 am

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#535 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:29 am

Watching that little inner eyewall remnant wobble around is fascinating. Intense tropical cyclone dynamics are awesome
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#536 Postby Highteeld » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:41 am

Oscillating back and forth from OW embedded in W (6.5) and WMG embedded in W (7.0)

1430z 6.5 (CMG getting thicker, though) :darrow:
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1400z 7.0 :darrow:
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#537 Postby Highteeld » Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:14 am

TXPQ28 KNES 081511
TCSWNP

A. 20W (HAGIBIS)

B. 08/1430Z

C. 19.0N

D. 141.4E

E. ONE/HIMAWARI-8

F. T6.5/6.5/D1.0/6HRS

G. IR/EIR/SWIR

H. REMARKS...THIS INTENSITY ESTIMATE WAS DERIVED USING 4 KM IR DATA. OW
EYE SURROUNDED BY CMG AND EMBEDDED IN WHITE YIELDS DT OF 6.5 INCLUDING
EYE ADJUSTMENT OF +0.5. MET AND PT AGREE. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#538 Postby Highteeld » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:19 am

Looks like the majority of the remnants of the inner eyewall are being evaporated/well established sinking -- would expect a more steady/increasing T # here on out, with a constant warming of the eye.

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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#539 Postby mrbagyo » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:06 pm

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Huge area of 30+knots wind
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Re: WPAC: HAGIBIS - Typhoon

#540 Postby Cunxi Huang » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:29 pm

SATCON & AMSU 12Z intensity estimates were about 910 mb and 897 mb, respectively, I would say Hagibis was around 145 kt/905 mb (KZC) at that time.

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