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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#121 Postby aspen » Sat May 16, 2020 4:13 pm

:uarrow: It couldn’t choose between a pinhole or a normal eye.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#122 Postby SouthDadeFish » Sat May 16, 2020 4:21 pm

1900hurricane wrote:And now GPM with a little better resolution. Looks like it tried to develop concentric cores. Probably won't be rapidly intensifying until it sorts that out.

https://i.imgur.com/nBFnVwL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/R4N8Eze.jpg


Looks like some signs of easterly shear too. The inner eyewall is relatively asymmetric. This could be another inhibitor of more rapid rates of intensification. Hopefully the shear persists.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#123 Postby Chris90 » Sat May 16, 2020 4:26 pm

Well isn't there a wide range of intensity estimates going on. 40kts all the way to 100kts+. I think it's probably good that Maue didn't go into something like investment banking with how bullish he usually is.

Based on microwave, I'd say it's probably a Cat 1 right now, between 75-80kts, since it does have a rather small, tight core with a partial eyewall, but it's also surrounded by what appears to be a larger, partial eyewall. If it can focus all the energy into that small core and finish that eyewall, those model runs could definitely come to fruition. Let's hope it doesn't.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#124 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat May 16, 2020 4:29 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:And now GPM with a little better resolution. Looks like it tried to develop concentric cores. Probably won't be rapidly intensifying until it sorts that out.

https://i.imgur.com/nBFnVwL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/R4N8Eze.jpg


Looks like some signs of easterly shear too. The inner eyewall is relatively asymmetric. This could be another inhibitor of more rapid rates of intensification. Hopefully the shear persists.

You wouldn't know it by looking at WV imagery, but guidance does indicate a wind maximum near 200 mb, which would actually be under the anvil level in this case due to the very high tropopause. It definitely bears watching as guidance (particularly the GFS) only increases it as time goes on. Statistical intensity models like SHIPS and LGEM have not been very excited about this one, and that may be a big reason why.

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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#125 Postby shah83 » Sat May 16, 2020 4:45 pm

2100z image does look like inner eyewall will be winning this one. Maybe the easterly shear was only temporary?
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#126 Postby shah83 » Sat May 16, 2020 5:02 pm

Latest GFS has much weaker system, apparently because shear will be an issue all the way north.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#127 Postby aspen » Sat May 16, 2020 6:13 pm

Really nice microwave pass showing the double partial eyewalls, from ~19z: https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/t ... 161941.gif
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#128 Postby aspen » Sat May 16, 2020 7:59 pm

I’m seeing two options for Amphan right now:

1.) the outer eyewall is able to take over and solidify, and Amphan begins to rapidly intensify as early as tomorrow. This decent large core should prevent absolute ludicrous intensity like Hagibis, but it would probably be able to take advantage of the extremely favorable waters of the BOB, before potentially increasing shear puts a lid on that intensification.

2.) Amphan attempts to repair its core and rapidly intensify, but shear will continue to disrupt it, so it won’t be able to take full advantage of the high SSTs/OHC. In this scenario, I’m thinking it would peak as a somewhat sloppy Cat 3, maybe a low Cat 4, and continue to fluctuate in intensity as it approaches landfall.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#129 Postby shah83 » Sat May 16, 2020 9:27 pm

As of 0145z, eye is out. Amphan is ready to rumble, it looks like.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#130 Postby aspen » Sat May 16, 2020 9:40 pm

shah83 wrote:As of 0145z, eye is out. Amphan is ready to rumble, it looks like.

I don’t think that’s the eye just yet; it seems to be a warm spot. The actual center seems to be slightly displaced from the blob of <-90 C cloud tops.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#131 Postby shah83 » Sat May 16, 2020 9:47 pm

Looking at the new 2357z microwave, does sort of feel like there is an almost complete eye feature, even if it's weak on the east side.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#132 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 16, 2020 11:03 pm

shah83 wrote:As of 0145z, eye is out. Amphan is ready to rumble, it looks like.


Given how lopsided Amphan is as a whole, I don't agree.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#133 Postby shah83 » Sat May 16, 2020 11:17 pm

GFZ 00z run delivers a catastrophic blow to West Bengal and Bihar.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#134 Postby shah83 » Sat May 16, 2020 11:26 pm

Canadian and Ukmet does the same.

edit, well, they actually strike at the border between India and Bangladesh
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#135 Postby Kingarabian » Sat May 16, 2020 11:33 pm

I'm not familiar with the geography that Amphan will likely affect. Is there currently a best case scenario that can happen other than it significantly weakening before landfall? Like are there less populated regions in its path? India has the 2nd highest population in the world.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#136 Postby shah83 » Sat May 16, 2020 11:48 pm

Kingarabian wrote:I'm not familiar with the geography that Amphan will likely affect. Is there currently a best case scenario that can happen other than it significantly weakening before landfall? Like are there less populated regions in its path? India has the 2nd highest population in the world.


If Amphan hits primarily at the border between India and Bangladesh, then a wildlife refuge/mangrove forest will blunt some of the surge impacts. As you can see with the Canadian rainfall prediction, much of Bangladesh, including Dhaka, would get tremendous rainfall and would probably be severely flooded by the combination of surge traveling up the Meghma river and rainfall coming in through the river/creek system. It would be a bit similar to Cyclone Sidr, except this is probably going to be a bigger storm. Cyclone Sidr still killed between 3k and 15k people, though.

For practical purposes, the best case scenario is lots of shear and the storm getting far enough west to hit Andhra Pradesh at Cat 2-3 intensity.

The GFS is definitely one of two worst case scenarios, the other being the cat-5 landfall just north of Chittagong.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Cyclonic Storm

#137 Postby shah83 » Sun May 17, 2020 1:07 am

getting quite a bit of dry air around it now.
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Severe Cyclonic Storm

#138 Postby doomhaMwx » Sun May 17, 2020 4:05 am

Upgraded to a cat 1 and SCS by JTWC and IMD, respectively.
I wonder if this will weaken as much as JTWC forecasts while approaching the coast. I have seen such forecasts for some NIO cyclones these past few years, but they ended up hitting land at/near peak.

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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Severe Cyclonic Storm

#139 Postby Nancy Smar » Sun May 17, 2020 4:24 am

Severe Cyclonic storm AMPHAN lies over central parts of south Bay of Bengal. To intensify into very severe cyclonic storm during next 12 hours and cross West Bengal and Bangladesh coast during 20th afternoon/evening
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Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Severe Cyclonic Storm

#140 Postby Nancy Smar » Sun May 17, 2020 7:02 am

SALIENT FEATURES:-
VORTEX (AMPHAN) OVER SE BAY & N/HOOD :-
VORTEX (AMPHAN) OVER CENTRAL PARTS OF SOUTH BAY & N/HOOD HAS
FURTHER INTENSIFIED NOW LAY CENTERED NEAR 11.7N/86.0E (.) A BANDING
EYE IS OBSERVED IN THE VISIBLE IMAGERY. INTENSITY T4.0 RPT T 4.0 (.)
CURVED BAND PATTERN (.) ASSTD BKN LOW/MED CLOUDS WITH EMBDD INT
TO V INT CONVTN OVER BAY BET LAT 7.5N TO 14.0N LONG 81.0E TO 89.0E
(.)

The latest Dvorak analysis from IMD is T4.0 so that Amphan could be classified as a VSCS later today.
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