ATL: ISAIAS - Post-Tropical - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
AutoPenalti
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4030
Age: 29
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:16 pm
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1201 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:22 am

It’s running out of time, that’s for sure.
0 likes   
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the NHC and NWS.


Model Runs Cheat Sheet:
GFS (5:30 AM/PM, 11:30 AM/PM)
HWRF, GFDL, UKMET, NAVGEM (6:30-8:00 AM/PM, 12:30-2:00 AM/PM)
ECMWF (1:45 AM/PM)

TCVN
is a weighted averaged

HurricaneFrances04
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 597
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:09 am
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1202 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:25 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Recon is in route!


yeah quick flight.. lets hope this is a center pass mission and not some weird survey mission.
based on yesterday afternoon, they can just monitor this board and use it for for instructions on where to look for a center :D


At the moment it looks like they are in the area members here have pointed out, so maybe they do :lol:
0 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1203 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:28 am

Exactly where it is showing up on radar and satellite..

recon needs to turn west.

Image
3 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
SFLcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10163
Age: 47
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:44 pm
Location: Lake Worth Florida

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1204 Postby SFLcane » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:29 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Exactly where it is showing up on radar and satellite..

recon needs to turn west.

https://i.ibb.co/tsH5WqD/Capture.png


There it is... we shall see.
3 likes   

User avatar
Blown Away
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 10147
Joined: Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1205 Postby Blown Away » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:34 am

SFLcane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Exactly where it is showing up on radar and satellite..

recon needs to turn west.

https://i.ibb.co/tsH5WqD/Capture.png


There it is... we shall see.


15.8/62.5 sticking to it. 8-)
1 likes   
Hurricane Eye Experience: David 79, Irene 99, Frances 04, Jeanne 04, Wilma 05... EYE COMING MY WAY IN 2024…
Hurricane Brush Experience: Andrew 92, Erin 95, Floyd 99, Matthew 16, Irma 17, Ian 22, Nicole 22…

User avatar
Weatherboy1
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1189
Age: 49
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:50 pm
Location: Jupiter/Sarasota, FL

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1206 Postby Weatherboy1 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:35 am

I would be shocked if they can't close off an LLC on #9, given the satellite presentation and the persistence of strong convection for many, many hours now. Also APPEARS to be slowing down a bit from its breakneck pace of the past few days … though that is an educated guess, not something "confirmed" due to lack of a concrete center. As for the ultimate path and strength of this system, obviously so much is dependent on whether it plows into Hispanola and its highest peaks or not. Will just have to keep watching carefully here in Palm Beach County at this time
4 likes   

3090
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 549
Age: 65
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:01 pm

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1207 Postby 3090 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:36 am

Vdogg wrote:
3090 wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:IR returns have fooled many people over the years, follow recon and visible until we have a 'core" for movement


Exactly my point, reiterated! 8-)

Well, if you rely on the NHC, then you would have seen their forecast discussion that states it's moving WNW at 295/20. So apparently they see a north component as well...


There has been no hurricane hunter data as far as I know, since yesterday afternoon. That said, in conjunction with data received from the hurricane hunters and the NHC using that data to issue advisories, is what I rely on. Not IR satellite imagery. Yes; a WNW motion as issued by the NHC is the info I follow. But I still don’t see how anyone can look at an IR image and make such an observation, which is my point. We shall see what today brings.
0 likes   

User avatar
HurricaneEnzo
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 739
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:18 pm
Location: Newport, NC (Hurricane Alley)

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1208 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:37 am

Weatherboy1 wrote:I would be shocked if they can't close off an LLC on #9, given the satellite presentation and the persistence of strong convection for many, many hours now. Also APPEARS to be slowing down a bit from its breakneck pace of the past few days … though that is an educated guess, not something "confirmed" due to lack of a concrete center. As for the ultimate path and strength of this system, obviously so much is dependent on whether it plows into Hispanola and its highest peaks or not. Will just have to keep watching carefully here in Palm Beach County at this time


If it is in fact slowing down could be foreshadowing the anticipated northerly turn.
Last edited by HurricaneEnzo on Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
1 likes   
Bertha 96' - Fran 96' - Bonnie 98' - Dennis 99' - Floyd 99' - Isabel 03' - Alex 04' - Ophelia 05' - Irene 11' - Arthur 14' - Matthew 16' - Florence 18' - Dorian 19' - Isaias 20' (countless other tropical storms and Hurricane swipes)

I am not a Professional Met just an enthusiast. Get your weather forecasts from the Pros!

jlauderdal
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 7183
Joined: Wed May 19, 2004 5:46 am
Location: NE Fort Lauderdale
Contact:

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1209 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:37 am

HurricaneFrances04 wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
yeah quick flight.. lets hope this is a center pass mission and not some weird survey mission.
based on yesterday afternoon, they can just monitor this board and use it for for instructions on where to look for a center :D


At the moment it looks like they are in the area members here have pointed out, so maybe they do :lol:


Its a good bet they look at this board :D

hopefully it doesnt bias them too much....there is some wacky stuff that comes through here
5 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1210 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:38 am

jlauderdal wrote:
HurricaneFrances04 wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:based on yesterday afternoon, they can just monitor this board and use it for for instructions on where to look for a center :D


At the moment it looks like they are in the area members here have pointed out, so maybe they do :lol:


Its a good bet they look at this board :D

hopefully it doesnt bias them too much....there is some wacky stuff that comes through here



Well they definitely see the center now.. lol

clear as day...

so far just flying around it.. :P

Image
3 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

jlauderdal
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 7183
Joined: Wed May 19, 2004 5:46 am
Location: NE Fort Lauderdale
Contact:

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1211 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:40 am

3090 wrote:
Vdogg wrote:
3090 wrote:
Exactly my point, reiterated! 8-)

Well, if you rely on the NHC, then you would have seen their forecast discussion that states it's moving WNW at 295/20. So apparently they see a north component as well...


There has been no hurricane hunter data as far as I know, since yesterday afternoon. That said, in conjunction with data received from the hurricane hunters and the NHC using that data to issue advisories, is what I rely on. Not IR satellite imagery. Yes; a WNW motion as issued by the NHC is the info I follow. But I still don’t see how anyone can look at an IR image and make such an observation, which is my point. We shall see what today brings.
its not even august and we are discussing the validity of IR images for motion without a true center...this is type of chat is at laeast two weeks ahead of schedule :roll:
4 likes   

St0rmTh0r
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 369
Joined: Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:04 pm

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1212 Postby St0rmTh0r » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:42 am

Aric Dunn wrote:i would wager we have a well defined and deepening llc at this point.

I'd take that bet it's becoming more organized by the hour
1 likes   

xironman
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2522
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:53 pm
Location: NoVA

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1213 Postby xironman » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:44 am

Given how messy it is I would not be surprised they find multiple eddies.
3 likes   

Frank P
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2776
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:52 am
Location: Biloxi Beach, Ms
Contact:

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1214 Postby Frank P » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:44 am

Side note: this most likely will be the most mispronounced TS/hurricane name ever... Or at least in the top 3!
6 likes   

AutoPenalti
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4030
Age: 29
Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:16 pm
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1215 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:45 am

So I guess I’m as lost as recon because I can’t seem to find the LLC :eek:
0 likes   
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the NHC and NWS.


Model Runs Cheat Sheet:
GFS (5:30 AM/PM, 11:30 AM/PM)
HWRF, GFDL, UKMET, NAVGEM (6:30-8:00 AM/PM, 12:30-2:00 AM/PM)
ECMWF (1:45 AM/PM)

TCVN
is a weighted averaged

Vdogg
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 621
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:56 am

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1216 Postby Vdogg » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:46 am

3090 wrote:
Vdogg wrote:
3090 wrote:
Exactly my point, reiterated! 8-)

Well, if you rely on the NHC, then you would have seen their forecast discussion that states it's moving WNW at 295/20. So apparently they see a north component as well...


There has been no hurricane hunter data as far as I know, since yesterday afternoon. That said, in conjunction with data received from the hurricane hunters and the NHC using that data to issue advisories, is what I rely on. Not IR satellite imagery. Yes; a WNW motion as issued by the NHC is the info I follow. But I still don’t see how anyone can look at an IR image and make such an observation, which is my point. We shall see what today brings.


We’ll have to agree to disagree. When I look at zoomed out IR, I can see the entirety of the “mass” is clearly gaining latitude as opposed to where it was in relation to S. America. Your mileage may vary.
0 likes   

User avatar
AdamFirst
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2491
Age: 36
Joined: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:54 am
Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1217 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:46 am

Frank P wrote:Side note: this most likely will be the most mispronounced TS/hurricane name ever... Or at least in the top 3!


I heard Bryan Norcross pronounce the name yesterday...it wasn't what I was expecting :D
3 likes   
Dolphins Marlins Canes Golden Panthers HEAT
Andrew 1992 - Irene 1999 - Frances 2004 - Jeanne 2004 - Wilma 2005 - Fay 2008 - Isaac 2012 - Matthew 2016 - Irma 2017 - Dorian 2019 - Ian 2022 - Nicole 2022 - Milton 2024

User avatar
SouthDadeFish
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 2835
Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:54 pm
Location: Miami, FL
Contact:

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1218 Postby SouthDadeFish » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:47 am

Still looks like a sharp wave for now. There is not a well-defined center. That being said, the overall convective pattern of the system is better organized today than yesterday. I suspect we see TC genesis by this evening.
5 likes   

Aric Dunn
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 21238
Age: 42
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:58 pm
Location: Ready for the Chase.
Contact:

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1219 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:55 am

Recon checking out the NHC position first... before hopefully heading back to the elephant in the room lol
1 likes   
Note: If I make a post that is brief. Please refer back to previous posts for the analysis or reasoning. I do not re-write/qoute what my initial post said each time.
If there is nothing before... then just ask :)

Space & Atmospheric Physicist, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University,
I believe the sky is falling...

User avatar
SouthDadeFish
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 2835
Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:54 pm
Location: Miami, FL
Contact:

Re: ATL: NINE - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#1220 Postby SouthDadeFish » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:55 am

Recon finding some SW winds now down near 14.8 N 63.3 W. There is confluent flow. Seems like only a matter of time before a LLC spins up now.
3 likes   


Return to “2020”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests