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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1261 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:25 pm

0z Track Guidance, and Intensity Guidance,....

*probaby should have a Best If Used By: 06z Expiration date.

FWIW, AVNI (GFS Op - red) pushes into MIA @ 72 hrs+. Should make TVCN & OFCL also move N (closer to Miami) later tonight.
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0Z Intensity guidance shows Basically Tropical Storm intensities,
except for COTI (NRL-COAMPS) which shows CAT2, due to lack of land interaction of it's track:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1262 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:32 pm

Spacecoast wrote:0z Track Guidance, and Intensity Guidance,....

*probaby should have a Best If Used By: 06z Expiration date.

FWIW, AVNI (GFS Op - red) pushes into MIA @ 72 hrs+. Should make TVCN & OFCL also move N (closer to Miami) later tonight.
https://i.ibb.co/c67scQV/Capture114j.jpg

0Z Intensity guidance shows Basically Tropical Storm intensities,
except for COTI (NRL-COAMPS) which shows CAT2, due to lack of land interaction of it's track:
https://i.ibb.co/jfdbK8G/Capture114k.jpg


Never mind then, I won’t call off work. :lol:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1263 Postby SFLcane » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:38 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
Spacecoast wrote:0z Track Guidance, and Intensity Guidance,....

*probaby should have a Best If Used By: 06z Expiration date.

FWIW, AVNI (GFS Op - red) pushes into MIA @ 72 hrs+. Should make TVCN & OFCL also move N (closer to Miami) later tonight.
https://i.ibb.co/c67scQV/Capture114j.jpg

0Z Intensity guidance shows Basically Tropical Storm intensities,
except for COTI (NRL-COAMPS) which shows CAT2, due to lack of land interaction of it's track:
https://i.ibb.co/jfdbK8G/Capture114k.jpg


Never mind then, I won’t call off work. :lol:


Even let’s say this hits SFL as a strong TS that surely isn’t no joke folks 60/70 mph gusts is all you need for power outages and interruptions.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1264 Postby lhpfish » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:39 pm

Irene 99 comes to mind...followed a similar path on arrival
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1265 Postby Blown Away » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:47 pm

SFLcane wrote:Updated some 00z guidance...SFL you may have a problem

https://i.postimg.cc/RCpB6JXn/828-B1-C50-89-C9-4-CA0-BE88-C5-E78-AA863-C8.jpg


I assume the 00z early TVCN doesn’t factor the 18z EURO and uses 12z run??
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1266 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:01 pm

Blown Away wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Updated some 00z guidance...SFL you may have a problem

https://i.postimg.cc/RCpB6JXn/828-B1-C50-89-C9-4-CA0-BE88-C5-E78-AA863-C8.jpg


I assume the 00z early TVCN doesn’t factor the 18z EURO and uses 12z run??


Yes, you are correct. TVCN uses 6hr interpolated previous cycles (EMXI, AVNI,HWFI, CTCI).
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1267 Postby Blown Away » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:11 pm

Are there any 18z models that don’t landfall between Ft Lauderdale and Keys?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1268 Postby ronjon » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:27 pm

Blown Away wrote:Are there any 18z models that don’t landfall between Ft Lauderdale and Keys?


My count zero. GFS, Euro, NAVGEM, ICON, HWRF, HMON all landfall between the keys and SE FL. And all somewhere between Sunday morning and Sunday night.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1269 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:34 pm

Blown Away wrote:Are there any 18z models that don’t landfall between Ft Lauderdale and Keys?


I believe all the 18z deterministic are between Keys and FTL. The latest CMC (12z), is still south, and the NRL- COAMPS possibly still south, but consensus are SFL hits, atm.
I expect the TVCN, and OFCL to fall into this category on their next update, and possibly a slight intensity bump to go along with the more easterly turn.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1270 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:45 pm

Why is it that every time we get a storm in our area it wants to arrive during the night time, can't stand it Lol.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1271 Postby wzrgirl1 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:54 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Why is it that every time we get a storm in our area it wants to arrive during the night time, can't stand it Lol.


I know I was just saying the same thing.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1272 Postby wzrgirl1 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:55 pm

When do you feel south Florida will be under some sort of watches/warnings if at all?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1273 Postby Blown Away » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:58 pm

wzrgirl1 wrote:When do you feel south Florida will be under some sort of watches/warnings if at all?


Friday night or Saturday morning TS watch for Miami to Keys... JMHO
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1274 Postby StormTracker » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:00 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Why is it that every time we get a storm in our area it wants to arrive during the night time, can't stand it Lol.

I was thinking the same thing...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1275 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:06 pm

Blown Away wrote:
wzrgirl1 wrote:When do you feel south Florida will be under some sort of watches/warnings if at all?


Friday night or Saturday morning TS watch for Miami to Keys... JMHO

Palm Beach County?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1276 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:06 pm

StormTracker wrote:
Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Why is it that every time we get a storm in our area it wants to arrive during the night time, can't stand it Lol.

I was thinking the same thing...

Brings me back to Frances and Jeanne.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1277 Postby AdamFirst » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:12 pm

wzrgirl1 wrote:When do you feel south Florida will be under some sort of watches/warnings if at all?


If forecasts remain consistent, watches will probably go up tomorrow evening. As Mike Watkins pointed out in his video, however, conditions are going to be poor for preparations due to the heavy rains and gusty winds expected to spread out over South Florida ahead of the storm. I, personally, don't anticipate anything more than a minimal hurricane, but this season has had too many surprises, so you never know.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1278 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:20 pm

Guess I will be having fun tomorrow evening closing shutters and tying down the boat and other stuff in Key Largo tomorrow night.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1279 Postby Frank2 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:29 pm

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You're making way too much of this system which right now per the NHC does not have an identifiable center.

On the WV loop, strong shear is evident from Cuba northward across the Florida Straits and that and the ULL forecast to form will make a big difference in what type of weather we will receive. No doubt the models will adjust their output during the day tomorrow and Saturday and that will help to define the system from that point on - if it forms.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1280 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:32 pm

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There are 2 videos out by respected Met's stating because of the angle the two systems will interact the sheer issue will not be the same as would normally be.
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