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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion: AF Plane to reach the eye shortly

#1941 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:
shah83 wrote:Wait, the longer it takes to reach land, the less time it will spend over land, right?


No. It will spend over 2 days crossing land, including some very rugged mountains in Honduras. Small storm + mountains = core death.

Yes, but it depends on how fast the core weakens, Bill in 2015 weakened ever so slowly despite going over hilly Eastern Oklahoma.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1942 Postby aspen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:06 pm

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I’m going to be a little conservative and go with 900 mbar/150 kt. The only reason I’m being conservative is because I don’t know if it’s even physically possible for Eta to have become >155 kt and <890 mbar.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1943 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:07 pm

supercane4867 wrote:WV still getting better. It's intensifying.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1944 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:07 pm

It's wobbling so much that at this point the averaged west movements are no longer noticeable. Weird.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion: AF Plane to reach the eye shortly

#1945 Postby BYG Jacob » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:07 pm

hipshot wrote:

It looks to be getting larger (area around the eye) as it approaches land or are my eyes fooling me.

Nope, its CDO is getting larger and more circular, like Haiyan's did.

EDIT: and Patricia's
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1946 Postby RL3AO » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:08 pm

On satellite, it's now joined the Wilma/Gilbert club for Atlantic systems. Also on the same page as Patricia/Haiyan. It's incredible to think that it not being under 900mb would actually be surprising.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion: AF Plane to reach the eye shortly

#1947 Postby TallyTracker » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:09 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
shah83 wrote:Wait, the longer it takes to reach land, the less time it will spend over land, right?


No. It will spend over 2 days crossing land, including some very rugged mountains in Honduras. Small storm + mountains = core death.

Yes, but it depends on how fast the core weakens, Bill in 2015 weakened ever so slowly despite going over hilly Eastern Oklahoma.


Honduras is much higher and more rugged than Oklahoma. See Mitch 1998 for what happens to a Cat 5 over land in Honduras. Rapidly weakened to a depression.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1948 Postby Highteeld » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:09 pm

I'm going with 890/165
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1949 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:09 pm

Kingarabian wrote:It's wobbling so much that at this point the averaged west movements are no longer noticeable. Weird.

Typical of ultra-intense pinholes. Wilma's eye was wobbling like crazy during her peak.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion: AF Plane to reach the eye shortly

#1950 Postby chaser1 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:10 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:My guess: 915mb, SFMR 150 knots.

Weird reality where that's conservative, but that's what I'm going with.


That seems like a pretty solid guess. I went with 914 mb for lowest pressure, a few hours ago. Tbh though..... I wouldn't even blink an eye if some of these sub-900mb guesses were to materialize.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1951 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:11 pm

i'll go with 165/ 885
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1952 Postby skyline385 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:11 pm

Pressure finally dropping, next set of HDOBS might be it
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1953 Postby cainjamin » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:11 pm

I'm going with 878, 175KT.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1954 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:11 pm

FL winds: 67 knots

Extrapoliated pressure: 994.9 MB


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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1955 Postby Owasso » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:11 pm

Pressure down to 994mb, max winds so far at 67kts with 50kts SFMR, still a ways to go to the center.
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#1956 Postby BYG Jacob » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:12 pm

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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1957 Postby Keldeo1997 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:12 pm

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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1958 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:12 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:It's wobbling so much that at this point the averaged west movements are no longer noticeable. Weird.

Typical of ultra-intense pinholes. Wilma's eye was wobbling like crazy during her peak.

It's like the worst case scenarios keep stacking over each other. Had it just zipped west Nicaragua and Hondurans theoretically could've been dealing with 50-70mph less wind speeds....
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1959 Postby Highteeld » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:12 pm

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