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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#21 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:54 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#22 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:42 pm

12z Canadian is much weaker with this wave in the extended range today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#23 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:43 pm

That is enough convection on the western side building in a pattern consistent with a TC with some towers trying to rotate around the east side.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#25 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:50 pm

Shower activity associated with a tropical wave located about 1000
miles west-southwest of the Cabo Verde Islands has changed little
in organization during the past several hours. Environmental
conditions are expected to be marginally conducive for development
of this system during the next few days while it moves westward at
10 to 15 mph over the tropical Atlantic. By Friday and over the
weekend, conditions are forecast to become less favorable for
tropical cyclone formation.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#26 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:57 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:That is enough convection on the western side building in a pattern consistent with a TC with some towers trying to rotate around the east side.

https://i.ibb.co/RycbjCZ/1010-336.gif


Sweet.
Towers on the west side are going to help quickly build the anti-cyclone.
Positive feedback kicking in.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#27 Postby drezee » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:35 pm

We always have this threshold. If it was in the Gulf of Mexico, would it be classified. For what I am looking at now, if that convection is still there by 0z...then yes it would.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#28 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:50 pm

Location: 8.6°N 37.6°W
Maximum Winds: 20 kt Gusts: nan kt
Minimum Central Pressure: 1009 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1010 mb
Radius of Circulation: 100 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 40 NM


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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#29 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:55 pm

Very nice tower just west of the CoC.
That answers the question of this being a protected pouch.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#30 Postby GCANE » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:59 pm

Combined IR-Satellite Wind-Field Analysis just came in.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#31 Postby MississippiWx » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:09 pm

Believe a 20% chance is rather conservative. Believe 50-60% in the short term is more appropriate.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#32 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:33 pm

GCANE wrote:Combined IR-Satellite Wind-Field Analysis just came in.

https://i.imgur.com/P37ohRS.gif



Those analyses aren't perfect... I would use the actual satellite data.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#33 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:38 pm

SFLcane wrote:
GCANE wrote:Combined IR-Satellite Wind-Field Analysis just came in.

https://i.imgur.com/P37ohRS.gif



Those analyses aren't perfect... I would use the actual satellite data.


It is actual satellite data.. along with any available data including ascat.

they are actually pretty darn accurate
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#34 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:47 pm

quite a drastic increase in EPS for 12z. with a few members lasting the entire 240 hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#35 Postby Nimbus » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:53 pm

Still kind of dry, but very clear rotation and its getting towards the end of July.
Models are becoming more bullish on a persistent area that could make it all the way into the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#36 Postby chaser1 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:19 pm

Nimbus wrote:Still kind of dry, but very clear rotation and its getting towards the end of July.
Models are becoming more bullish on a persistent area that could make it all the way into the Gulf.


Yep, I'd pretty much agree with that. At it's fairly low latitude, I'm less concerned with dryer air mixing in but those ENE upper level winds ARE pretty brisk looking. I'm not as sure as Levi seems to be about those upper level winds abating all that soon but if he's right, it certainly seems to have a decent low level spin for it to work with. I think the odds are close to even on an upgrade to T.D. OR dissipation into the ITCZ by tomorrow evening. If it does little more than maintain status quo for the next 24 hours though, then I'd hedge toward further development over the following day or two.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#37 Postby Monsoonjr99 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:24 pm

Seems well on its way to developing into a TC, even though the GFS has backed off on development somewhat. CMC has started to correct for the hostile conditions ahead and no longer shows it surviving all the way across the Caribbean, but still shows it surviving past the islands, which likely won't happen. If this forms, it should be a short-lived TD or maybe TS before the ULL, SAL, and trade burst snuff it out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#38 Postby abajan » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:15 pm

Convection flaring:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#39 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:26 pm

Looks like a TD to me. It is consistently firing convection over the LLC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#40 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:29 pm

Early Evening NHC Update stays at 20%.

Shower activity has changed little in association with a weak area
of low pressure, and its associated tropical wave, located roughly
midway between the west coast of Africa and the Lesser Antilles.
Environmental conditions are expected to be marginally conducive
for development of this system during the next couple of days while
it moves westward at 10 to 15 mph over the tropical Atlantic. Late
this week, however, less favorable conditions should limit
additional development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
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