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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#201 Postby Frank P » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:30 am

It’s by far the best it’s look to date, hints of circulation, building convection... much much improved from even earlier this morning... dang!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#202 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:39 am

Isidore in 2002 formed ridiculously far south just east of Trinidad and Tobago, much further east than this, but clipped northern South America and dropped to a wave for a while; that's the closest recent one I can remember

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#203 Postby wx98 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:43 am

EquusStorm wrote:Isidore in 2002 formed ridiculously far south just east of Trinidad and Tobago, much further east than this, but clipped northern South America and dropped to a wave for a while; that's the closest recent one I can remember

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Isidore_2002_track.png/528px-Isidore_2002_track.png

Side note, interesting that this storm was from the same list. It was replaced by Ike and then Isaias.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#204 Postby EquusStorm » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:52 am

Come to think of it Charley was also really low latitude, and closer to this time of year climatologically. Hopefully not too many 2004 parallels with this year's tracks though for obvious reasons.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#205 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:55 am

EquusStorm wrote:Isidore in 2002 formed ridiculously far south just east of Trinidad and Tobago, much further east than this, but clipped northern South America and dropped to a wave for a while; that's the closest recent one I can remember

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Isidore_2002_track.png/528px-Isidore_2002_track.png


Isidore definitely had a unique track!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#206 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:16 am

Looking pretty good this morning, gradually trying to get itself together in the Eastern Caribbean this morning. I an still not expecting significant development until it gets into the NW Caribbean in a few days.

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I posted this nearly 4 hours ago. 97L is looking even better now on visible and IR satellite imagery.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#207 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 am

northjaxpro wrote:Looking pretty good this morning, gradually trying to get itself together in the Eastern Caribbean this morning. I an still not expecting significant development until it gets into the NW Caribbean in a few days.

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I posted this nearly 4 hours ago. 97L is looking even better now on visible and IR satellite imagery.



Seeing some slight winds from the NW on the SE side of the convection on IR.
Nothing yet on radar or surface obs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#208 Postby Shell Mound » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:13 am

This could potentially become a tropical storm near the northernmost Yucatán Peninsula and the Yucatán Channel in about three and a half to four days, but its window for organisation may be brief. First the system will need to contend with lingering outflow from Genevieve, and then it may encounter northeasterly shear as anticyclonic flow impinges on the system from the north, particularly by day six. Additionally, outflow from 98L may or may not promote additional shear over the system. However, VWS seems relatively low by eighty-four to ninety-six hours, and the system will benefit from both frictional convergence and southerly inflow as a trough swings by to the north. So we could certainly see a short-lived TS that then weakens and dies out over the southern Gulf as it meanders about.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#209 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:13 am

Classic Caribbean tumbleweed with potentially multiple centers.
Some low level outflow boundary clouds near the rear of the circulation but the broader circulation just looks tilted toward the ENE with altitude. Still plenty of evacuation going on so once this slows down west of Jamaica it has a chance.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#210 Postby MGC » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:09 pm

97L don't look too good today...lots of outflow boundaries...might do something when it gets in the WCarb.....MGC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#211 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:17 pm

I mentioned earlier the best chances for development would be in NW Caribbean, provided if if does not go inland CA or Yucatan P. late in the medium range.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#212 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:21 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#213 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:28 pm



for thursday afternoon. wow they are really expecting to slow down that much...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#214 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:36 pm

There are some weak easterly moving low level clouds on the south side.

another prolonged burst of convection would likely get this going on a path to development sooner rather than later.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#215 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:40 pm

EquusStorm wrote:Isidore in 2002 formed ridiculously far south just east of Trinidad and Tobago, much further east than this, but clipped northern South America and dropped to a wave for a while; that's the closest recent one I can remember

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Isidore_2002_track.png/528px-Isidore_2002_track.png


While there is not much model support for this type of intensity, this recent storm really isn't that far off the current track of 97L.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#216 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:51 pm

A tropical wave over the eastern Caribbean Sea continues to produce
an area of disorganized thunderstorms and gusty winds. This wave
is moving quickly westward at about 20 mph and significant
development is unlikely while it moves across the eastern and
central Caribbean Sea during the next day or two. After that time,
however, the wave is forecast to slow down, and a tropical
depression will likely form late this week or this weekend when it
reaches the northwestern Caribbean Sea.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#217 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:51 pm

Yeah definitely some easterly moving low level cloud lines of the south side at around the 850 to 925 mb level. would need a good convective burst to work that to the surface.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#218 Postby davidiowx » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:49 pm

captainbarbossa19 wrote:
EquusStorm wrote:Isidore in 2002 formed ridiculously far south just east of Trinidad and Tobago, much further east than this, but clipped northern South America and dropped to a wave for a while; that's the closest recent one I can remember

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Isidore_2002_track.png/528px-Isidore_2002_track.png


While there is not much model support for this type of intensity, this recent storm really isn't that far off the current track of 97L.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#219 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:21 pm

Winds beginning to turn

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#220 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:25 pm

GCANE wrote:Winds beginning to turn

https://i.imgur.com/T0A5SsG.png



Interesting. I noticed the eastward moving clouds down there but figured it would take a little more convection to close it off at the surface..
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