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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2021 Postby Raebie » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:26 pm

Welp, that was fun.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2022 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:26 pm

Given little sign of an outer eyewall and temps still rising, probably has some intensification to go.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2023 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm

So I went to workout for what??
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2024 Postby shah83 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm

HWRF is pleased with itself. A little too far north, but hits the pressure!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2025 Postby storminabox » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm

Quite surprising considering it’s presentation. Goes to show that we still have lots to learn.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2026 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
supercane4867 wrote:Again proves that to have a top-tier storm, an explicitly good eye temp is more important than any ridiculously cold cloud tops :lol:

EXACTLY. Was just going to post this. Eye temp is everything. That orange eye didn't materialize fortunately.


YET. There's still time for it to get warmer.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2027 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm

If dropsonde supports sub-930mb pressure it's obviously most likely a 140kt CAT5
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2028 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm

A 925mb storm isn't going to be a Cat 4.

This is a Cat 5, but a lower end one. This is good news compared to the dreadful Haiyan-esque impact we were expecting based on the RAW T#.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2029 Postby emeraldislenc » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm

Please let us not forget the destruction of this storm. It bothers me that some are treating this like a sporting event. This is a very serious situation!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2030 Postby ClarCari » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:27 pm

Did Patricia or Wilma’s first recon pass even tell us how intense the storm really was??
With a pinhole eye, one pass does not make this storm.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2031 Postby tiger_deF » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:28 pm

Now I hope Eta warms up the eye and does reach sub-900 just to prove everyone wrong (and fall apart like Patricia right after of course)
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2032 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:28 pm

I kinda feel like NHC is going with 135kts this advisory...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2033 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:28 pm

Will the real Patricia please stand up.

Seriously though, this is good news. Hopefully it remains weak.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2034 Postby gfsperpendicular » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:28 pm

Man this just goes to show Dvorak has a long way to go in upper-end systems, sometimes too low, sometimes too high
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2035 Postby Kazmit » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:29 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Will the real Patricia please stand up.

Seriously though, this is good news. Hopefully it remains weak.

"Weak"
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2036 Postby CyclonicFury » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:29 pm

I guess Eta is proof that Dvorak doesn't underestimate every single storm.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2037 Postby aspen » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:29 pm

EquusStorm wrote:Given little sign of an outer eyewall and temps still rising, probably has some intensification to go.

It could still make a run for 900 mbar with that presentation. Between the 1230z and 0216z passes, Eta has seen a deepening rate of 3.5 mb/hr, which is averaged out over nearly 2 hours. Perhaps it had a slow-down earlier in the afternoon and has only recently begun bombing out again. Or the plane missed peak intensity by a bit. We’ll know for certain next pass.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2038 Postby GeneratorPower » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:29 pm

The pass missed the eye.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2039 Postby RL3AO » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:29 pm

gfsperpendicular wrote:Man this just goes to show Dvorak has a long way to go in upper-end systems, sometimes too low, sometimes too high


To be fair, this has been known for a good 30 or 40 years. Dvorak is the 2nd best tool we have at measuring high end storms. But it can still be way off.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye

#2040 Postby Argcane » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:30 pm

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