ATL: ETA - Post-Tropical - Discussion
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
Given little sign of an outer eyewall and temps still rising, probably has some intensification to go.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
So I went to workout for what??
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
HWRF is pleased with itself. A little too far north, but hits the pressure!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
Quite surprising considering it’s presentation. Goes to show that we still have lots to learn.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion
Kingarabian wrote:supercane4867 wrote:Again proves that to have a top-tier storm, an explicitly good eye temp is more important than any ridiculously cold cloud tops
EXACTLY. Was just going to post this. Eye temp is everything. That orange eye didn't materialize fortunately.
YET. There's still time for it to get warmer.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
If dropsonde supports sub-930mb pressure it's obviously most likely a 140kt CAT5
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
A 925mb storm isn't going to be a Cat 4.
This is a Cat 5, but a lower end one. This is good news compared to the dreadful Haiyan-esque impact we were expecting based on the RAW T#.
This is a Cat 5, but a lower end one. This is good news compared to the dreadful Haiyan-esque impact we were expecting based on the RAW T#.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
Please let us not forget the destruction of this storm. It bothers me that some are treating this like a sporting event. This is a very serious situation!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
Did Patricia or Wilma’s first recon pass even tell us how intense the storm really was??
With a pinhole eye, one pass does not make this storm.
With a pinhole eye, one pass does not make this storm.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
Now I hope Eta warms up the eye and does reach sub-900 just to prove everyone wrong (and fall apart like Patricia right after of course)
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
I kinda feel like NHC is going with 135kts this advisory...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
Will the real Patricia please stand up.
Seriously though, this is good news. Hopefully it remains weak.
Seriously though, this is good news. Hopefully it remains weak.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
Man this just goes to show Dvorak has a long way to go in upper-end systems, sometimes too low, sometimes too high
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
Kingarabian wrote:Will the real Patricia please stand up.
Seriously though, this is good news. Hopefully it remains weak.
"Weak"
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
I guess Eta is proof that Dvorak doesn't underestimate every single storm.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
EquusStorm wrote:Given little sign of an outer eyewall and temps still rising, probably has some intensification to go.
It could still make a run for 900 mbar with that presentation. Between the 1230z and 0216z passes, Eta has seen a deepening rate of 3.5 mb/hr, which is averaged out over nearly 2 hours. Perhaps it had a slow-down earlier in the afternoon and has only recently begun bombing out again. Or the plane missed peak intensity by a bit. We’ll know for certain next pass.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Hurricane - Discussion= First pass missed the eye
gfsperpendicular wrote:Man this just goes to show Dvorak has a long way to go in upper-end systems, sometimes too low, sometimes too high
To be fair, this has been known for a good 30 or 40 years. Dvorak is the 2nd best tool we have at measuring high end storms. But it can still be way off.
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