ATL: LAURA - Models

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2141 Postby cp79 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:18 pm

Damn Euro has it trucking. Not sure this thing will ever get past cat 2 strength with it moving so fast.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2142 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:18 pm

Euro at 96 looks dead on maybe a hair East of hwrf. Now have a spread from closer to vermilion bay with gfs and NOLA with The Euro. Feeling like some concensus building here. Obviously still lots of time and I still think anywhere in northern gulf is not out of the question but It starting to feel like these swings will be fewer and smaller. And we wait...
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2143 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:20 pm

Euro similar track as HWRF but waaay faster and weaker

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2144 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:22 pm

Yep that tells me speed will be key. If it’s goes faster than seems like ms coast could be in more trouble...slower and you are looking closer to Morgan city,
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2145 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:23 pm

gatorcane wrote:
gatorcane wrote:12 Euro at 72 hours, definitely stronger. But how does it strengthen with all the land interaction especially between 24 and 48 hours? Seems unlikely. Conditions are favorable in the Gulf but I would be cautious looking at each of these runs until we see how Laura interacts with Hispaniola and Cuba which have some very tall mountains that have been known to shred cyclones apart. I imagine it is tough to model something like that:

https://i.postimg.cc/28mLM0Ct/ecmwf-mslpa-Norm-watl-4.png


Following on to this, some potentially good news in that the 96 hour Euro forecast weakens Laura on the approach to the northern Gulf. Goes from 993MB at 72 hours to 999MB at 96 hours. I say potential because we need to see if other models stars picking up on whatever the Euro is seeing that causes the weakening:

https://i.postimg.cc/X7z3dv1g/ecmwf-mslpa-Norm-watl-5.png


You just said to be cautious looking at a 24-48 hour forecast and then highlight potential good news at 96 hours. The storm is inland at that point, thus a weaker look.

The conditions in the Gulf will be ripe. The biggest question is what structure does it have after island interaction.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2146 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:23 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Euro similar track as HWRF but waaay faster and weaker

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2020082212/ecmwf_mslp_uv850_watl_5.png

If the core is not significantly disrupted by land I have a hard time seeing how this stays below hurricane strength. Conditions look ripe in the gulf, even if it does move that fast. Probably wouldn’t get to cat 4 though.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2147 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:24 pm

PTPatrick wrote:Yep that tells me speed will be key. If it’s goes faster than seems like ms coast could be in more trouble...slower and you are looking closer to Morgan city,


Why is it so fast though? No other models show that speed, I wonder if it has to do with Marco and the ridge building in behind it
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2148 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:24 pm

Notice the GFS ensembles which keep Laura on the weak side. The Euro is landfalling at 999MB so not too far off. Just don’t even look at the HWRF beyond 3 days. I am still waiting on the CAT 5 it showed for me just a couple of days ago :wink:

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2149 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:25 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Euro similar track as HWRF but waaay faster and weaker

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2020082212/ecmwf_mslp_uv850_watl_5.png


The euro has it in almost the same spot as HWRF, just 3-6 hours earlier. Not a huge difference for a 4 day forecast.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2150 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:26 pm

12z GFS ensembles now have a few members hugging the west coast of Fl. Be watching carefully next.few days. This is gonna be close with the strength and orientation of ridge the key to Laura's eventual track in the eastern GOM.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2151 Postby bella_may » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:28 pm

The next 24 hours will be crucial. Anything from a low end cat 1 to a low end cat 4 is possible
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2152 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:30 pm

Notice the 12z euro brings it nne from Nola. A sign the ridge is weakerImage

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2153 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:31 pm

gatorcane wrote:Notice the GFS ensembles which keep Laura on the weak side. The Euro is landfalling at 999MB so not too far off. Just don’t even look at the HWRF beyond 3 days. I am still waiting on the CAT 5 it showed for me just a couple of days ago :wink:

https://i.postimg.cc/KYcdWSWY/13-L-gefs-12z.png


Glad you posted that. I was telling my brother I wasn’t as concerned about strength yet as the Hwrf is better at track. I do think conditions look favorable but that model loves to make a cat 5 out of anything. If it’s still showing a major this time tomorrow I will be more concerned.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2154 Postby crimi481 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:33 pm

We can say models trending east?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2155 Postby DestinHurricane » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:37 pm

crimi481 wrote:We can say models trending east?

For sure. GFS and Euro have both shifted east. TVCN will go east.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2156 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:47 pm

Cant really use the Euro for intensity, just the fact that is now depicting a organised system approaching the
Gulf coast is cause for concern.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2157 Postby blp » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:52 pm

gatorcane wrote:Notice the GFS ensembles which keep Laura on the weak side. The Euro is landfalling at 999MB so not too far off. Just don’t even look at the HWRF beyond 3 days. I am still waiting on the CAT 5 it showed for me just a couple of days ago :wink:

https://i.postimg.cc/KYcdWSWY/13-L-gefs-12z.png


Gator you are almost trolling at this point. I have seen you on here for a while and have not seen this from you before until this season. I don't know what up? We all know the HWRF overdoes the intensity and nobody that has been here for a while takes it as gospel. It has done a decent job on the evolution of the track for this system. At least it showed something unlike the Euro and GFS.

My concern is we cannot just downplay this because the reliable models plow this over land. if it does follow the northerly path lots of places are in for some trouble and may get caught off guard.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2158 Postby LowerAlabamaTider » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:56 pm

These recent runs not so comforting for us along Alabama coast either.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2159 Postby cp79 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:07 pm

crimi481 wrote:We can say models trending east?


Not significantly though. HWRF actually moved more West. But the consensus was the La/Tx coast and now it’s more around NO.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Models

#2160 Postby stormlover2013 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:08 pm

All depends where the center reforms
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